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Offset rims?
Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2003 2:20 pm
by mike
Does anyone know of a supplier who has these "off the shelf" to suit a zook?
Damo, I know you had a lead on some, do you have contact details/specs?
I'm currently using F100 rims but need probably an inch or so more still!
Cheers mike
Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2003 3:11 pm
by greg
Hi Mike,
Perhaps the best approach would be to tell us what size the rim that you are after will be and what the offset is that you are after.
Without that knowledge, my best advise would be somelike like Speedy Wheels (they make a 7x15 inch rim with more offset than most i believe), or an F100 rim (which i see you already have).
That leads me to your other two options - wheel spacers, or getting your rims offset. If you are buying / paying for these, wheel spacers tend to be between 150 and 200 per wheel, and offsetting your rims tends to be around 40 - 50 per wheel.
Let us know what offset you are after and in what size rim. That would make it easier to advise you.
Cheers,
Greg
Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2003 3:26 pm
by Damo
Speedy supplied the ones i'm running. 15x8 -25 offset (which should give you an extra inch over what you have)
I found them listed on the speedy website and just asked my local tyre dude to order them for me.
http://www.speedywheels.com.au
Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2003 3:46 pm
by mike
greg wrote:Hi Mike,
Perhaps the best approach would be to tell us what size the rim that you are after will be and what the offset is that you are after.
Without that knowledge, my best advise would be somelike like Speedy Wheels (they make a 7x15 inch rim with more offset than most i believe), or an F100 rim (which i see you already have).
That leads me to your other two options - wheel spacers, or getting your rims offset. If you are buying / paying for these, wheel spacers tend to be between 150 and 200 per wheel, and offsetting your rims tends to be around 40 - 50 per wheel.
Let us know what offset you are after and in what size rim. That would make it easier to advise you.
Cheers,
Greg
Thanks Greg,
the F100 rims I have are 15 x8s I also have a set of zook 15 x 7s. I run Yoko MTs 31x10.5s on the 7s and bogger TSLs on the 8s.
To be truthful I don't know what the offsets are on these rims, just that I need about an inch more than the F100s have. I don't have the vehicle or tyre sets here to measure and I'm not exactly sure what to measure either.
Not very keen on the spacers would rather find someone that can do the offset on existing, but preference is to find an "off the shelf" fit if that can be found.
Cheers Mike
Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2003 3:51 pm
by greg
Mike,
If the issue that you have is to do with hitting your tyres on the springs at full lock, let me know and i will try to explain how you can reduce your full lock slightly to keep the tyres off the springs...
However, if it is more with that you need, then i guess changing the offset of the wheels is the only way to go.
I believe you need to look for someone that does Racing Wheels, they should be able to change the offset of the rims for you...
Cheers,
Greg
Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2003 4:13 pm
by mike
greg wrote:Mike,
If the issue that you have is to do with hitting your tyres on the springs at full lock, let me know and i will try to explain how you can reduce your full lock slightly to keep the tyres off the springs...
However, if it is more with that you need, then i guess changing the offset of the wheels is the only way to go.
I believe you need to look for someone that does Racing Wheels, they should be able to change the offset of the rims for you...
Cheers,
Greg
Thanks MkII Greg,
Yup it's more than just a full lock thing with the boggers...
Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2003 8:13 pm
by zookjedi
hey greg whats the go with limiting your steering ? i hardly hit mine but it takes a bit of concentrating rather limit the throw and think on whats at hand. please tell me how
Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2003 11:51 am
by greg
Hi Stressed,
Rather than writing my own explanation about the steering, i asked the fellow who made the changes for me.
here's what he wrote:
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On each steering knuckle (the bit that fits over the shiny sphere on
the axle end), there are a number of 6mm bolts that hold the seals
on. there are about 8-10 of these, and they are visible right
adjacent to the shiny sphere. The rearmost 10mm bolt ( the one
towards the back of the car) hits the axle housing on full lock, and
therefore acts as a steering stop. On your car, we fitted longer 6mm
bolts with a nut run onto the bolt as well. the bolt is threaded in
enough to "stop" the steering where desired, and the nut is then
tightened to retain the seal. Note that the bolt will need to be bent
slightly so that it touches the axlehousing in the right spot, or
else it will get bent out of the way by steering force. It is a bit
of a trial and error thing, but I think it worked well on your car
once it was set up properly.
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Hope that helps,
Cheers.
Greg
Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2003 12:53 pm
by skippy
pics would be nice
Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2003 12:54 pm
by greg
a camera would be too :(
Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2003 2:21 pm
by grimbo
greg whem you do the body swap and engine swap let me know as i can come around and be official photographer. Won't be able to get my hands dirty as I will be handling the camera but them the breaks
Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2003 7:19 pm
by zookjedi
thanks for that greg. i thought my car was missing the original stops when i saw they were hitting them bolts , oh well something to do this sunday after i replace the birfield thanks once more.
Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2003 7:56 am
by mike
Damo wrote:Speedy supplied the ones i'm running. 15x8 -25 offset (which should give you an extra inch over what you have)
I found them listed on the speedy website and just asked my local tyre dude to order them for me.
http://www.speedywheels.com.au
Thanks Damo,
I have spoken to Speedy and they reckon the F100 rims I have are the same as that so it looks like I'll have to try and get someone to modify. So far I have drawn a blank on that locally.
Cheers
mike
Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2003 5:32 pm
by Daniel
Gday all,
Can anyone tell me what off set rims actually do, i am confussed!!
Thanx
Daniel
Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2003 5:55 pm
by greg
Daniel wrote:Gday all,
Can anyone tell me what off set rims actually do, i am confussed!!
Thanx
Daniel
The offset of a rim is refering to the distance between the wheel mounting surface (where the wheel nuts sit), and the inner and outer lip of the rim.
The closer to the inside you have your mounting surface, the futher out the rim (and tyre) sits. This means your car is wider, and there is more room between your tyres and your chassis / springs etc. However, it also means that when you turn your wheels at the front when going around the corner, it also increases the arc that the tyre travels in (the scrub radius).
Having the mounting surface closer to the outside does the complete opposite - the car is narrower, the tyres are more likely to touch the chassis / spring etc, but the scrub radius is smaller when you turn your wheels.
Hope that helps.
Cheers,
Greg
Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2003 5:58 pm
by Daniel
Gday,
so having off-set rims would be better, i also have a Question you may be able to help me out
just about what tyres i should get, id like 33" , 12.5 Mudd terrains or somehting but i dont think a 1.3 lt sierra will turn them can you help me out??
Cheers
Daniel
Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2003 6:12 pm
by greg
Daniel wrote:Gday,
so having off-set rims would be better, i also have a Question you may be able to help me out
just about what tyres i should get, id like 33" , 12.5 Mudd terrains or somehting but i dont think a 1.3 lt sierra will turn them can you help me out??
Cheers
Daniel
As per my answer on your post in the fuel tank issue - more information is required about how far you are going with your car, what your budget is, do you want to drive it every day, is it going to be kept "street legal" etc...
I would suggest that a 33x12.5" mud terrain would not be aggressive enough - i.e. you are going to do a lot of work to get a tyre that big under your car, you should get a very aggressive tyre to make it worth the trouble - otherwise, once you get some mud under your car, you'll be sitting on 33" slicks - better to get something that is 33" and useful under victorian conditions.
Cheers,
Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2003 7:14 pm
by Daniel
Thanx,
what would you surgest would be a sutible mud tyre under vic conditions, under $1500
Cheers
Daniel
Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2003 8:47 pm
by bazooked
SIMEX
Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2003 8:48 pm
by Daniel
but there to much money
i only wanna spend $1500 tyres only
Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2003 9:34 pm
by Slunnie
I'm hearing that down in Melbourne Simex are a similar price to regular muddies (cheap freight I guess). The Jungle Trekker is a bit over $300 in Sydney and available as a 33 and 34", the Extreme Trekker is a little more an available as a 32" and 35".
Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2003 11:19 pm
by bazooked
the extreme in a 32 is $275 and in the jungle trek in a 33 is $290 a piece,so u will have change out of 1500
Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2003 9:48 am
by greg
Daniel wrote:but there to much money
i only wanna spend $1500 tyres only
I got my 34x9.5x15 TSL Swampers for less than 1500 too.
Lots of options i'd say
Cheers,