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80 Series Diffs in a SWB Vitara
Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2003 9:40 am
by Maggot4x4
Does anyone know if you could get this engineered? Would the chassis be strong enough?
Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2003 1:13 pm
by zooker
Damn dont ya think thats a bit of overkill
Wat do u need diffs that big for??
Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2003 1:19 pm
by skippy
why not go with the usual hilux diff swap? that would be plenty strong enough.
unless you are planning on running 44" boggers or something.
if your'e going 80 series diffs, why not go bigger and put unimog diffs under it?
Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2003 1:41 pm
by Damo
Maybe he's already got a pair of 80 series diffs?
I can't see why this couldnt be engineered. The only thing I would be concerned about is the width but i'm thinking it would be reasonably close.
Which state you are in might make a difference. Where r u?
Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2003 2:18 pm
by grimbo
how are they for offset, will they line up with transfer case and clear the engine. Anything is possible but I'd imagine it would involve a lot of work and $$$ to get it properly done and engineered. They will be awfully wide for a vitara so there are all the worries about tyre clearance with the body work etc which means a big lift as I imagine the whole point of this is to run big tyres. What are you planning?
offset diff centres
Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2003 3:03 pm
by Damo
Good point Grimbo, I didnt think of that one. Cruiser diffs are offset to the drivers side are they not?
Vitara is drivers side offset front, centred rear.
In this case hilux diffs might be a better choice.
Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2003 3:19 pm
by Wendle
The vitara rear diff is already wider than A hilux Diff, I believe about 100mm?? (hence the very large backspace to the standard rims) so 80 series diffs are probably about the same?
Then again a stock vitara rim isn'r goingto fit on an 80 series axle, so it is neither here nor there
Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2003 6:36 pm
by dave
wound be an interesting build up
Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2003 7:04 am
by Damo
Wendle wrote:The vitara rear diff is already wider than A hilux Diff, I believe about 100mm?? (hence the very large backspace to the standard rims) so 80 series diffs are probably about the same?
Then again a stock vitara rim isn'r goingto fit on an 80 series axle, so it is neither here nor there
Vitara is wider than 80 series by 100mm? That's make a 80/Lux diff about the same as a widetrack sierra diff. R u sure about this? I think we need to get some WMS measurements for each and compare. I'm pretty interested in these figures regardless.
Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2003 8:00 am
by Wendle
Damo wrote:Vitara is wider than 80 series by 100mm?
No. Wider than a HILUX diff by ~100mm.
Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2003 8:17 am
by Damo
Still doesnt sound quite right to me, but it's probably the different offsets that confuse the issue. Thinking of it in that light i'm not so doubtful now.
But I prefer measurements to speculation 8)
Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2003 8:24 am
by Wendle
Damo wrote:But I prefer measurements to speculation 8)
Same here, but after looking at Sam's buggy with a standard vitara rear and reversed rims, it is as wide as my GQ with landcruiser rims.
Some actual numbers would be nice to know. 8)
Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2003 10:28 am
by OVERKILL ENG
My rear wheel track is 1620mm form the centre off the trread.
SAM
Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2003 10:34 am
by OVERKILL ENG
something to compare against
A GU with 15/8 is 1670mm
A 1994 hilux is 1470mm
SAM
Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2003 10:36 am
by Wendle
overkill wrote:My rear wheel track is 1620mm form the centre off the trread.
SAM
Hilux WMS-WMS = 1397
80series WMS-WMS = 1595
These are from a very reputable source, but YMMV
So going off sam's measure and a bit of guessery, vitara would be ~1470?
Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2003 10:41 am
by Wendle
I think for a lightweight vehicle the vitara rear is perfect..
How strong is the carrier where the link mount threads are tapped into it??
Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2003 10:42 am
by zookin
Sam has just put hilux diffs in my short wheelbase.not much wider. but looks mental.
Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2003 4:01 pm
by zooker
How much did it cost to put the hilux diffs in?