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Linked Suspensions - Sam?

Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2003 9:17 am
by bubs
Ok i have looked at adrians pos yesterday and have decided i might go coils straight up in the new lux - this will be determined once i speak to the engineer.

but i need to know what makes a good linked suspension what makes perfect geometry and what is antisquat and what else do i need to factor in to make a A frame rear end work great off road and still give excellant handling on the street

i know there is so much more to this then just bunging some rod ends in to the ends of some tube and welding some mounts on the frame and axle.

any help will be appreciated guys

Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2003 10:56 am
by POS
Who gave you permission to look at the POS!!!!

I have some secret developments happening!!!

Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2003 10:57 am
by RUFF
POS wrote:Who gave you permission to look at the POS!!!!

I have some secret developments happening!!!


What does that consist of GRASS GROWING ON THE SEATS :finger:

Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2003 11:22 am
by POS
RUFF wrote:
POS wrote:Who gave you permission to look at the POS!!!!

I have some secret developments happening!!!


What does that consist of GRASS GROWING ON THE SEATS :finger:


GRASS!! Hello :shock: Might come in handy :lol: :lol:

I am also building up our BUG supply for XRCC, ants nest in the floor and spider webs everywhere, should have a nice supply by XRCC! :lol: :lol:

Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2003 11:45 am
by OVERKILL ENG
POS wrote:Who gave you permission to look at the POS!!!!

I have some secret developments happening!!!


He wanted to know what not to do. :D :D :D :D :D

Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2003 1:39 pm
by Damo
RUFF wrote:
POS wrote:Who gave you permission to look at the POS!!!!

I have some secret developments happening!!!


What does that consist of GRASS GROWING ON THE SEATS :finger:


That ain't grass!!! Well, some people call it grass... :D

Stoners! :finger:

Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2003 10:03 pm
by N*A*M
not 1 single post has been on topic :finger:

Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2003 6:23 am
by Damo
Good work NAM, if you'd kept your pie hole shut we would have gotten away with it :finger:

Bubs, you need to check out the POR board. A little searching on there will reveal a LOT of discussion on this topic. I just hope you are keen on reading... You will have to wade through the typical BS they carry on with to get to the good stuff, but it is there.

That's a good start anyway.

Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2003 8:27 am
by bubs
Damo wrote:Good work NAM, if you'd kept your pie hole shut we would have gotten away with it :finger:

Bubs, you need to check out the POR board. A little searching on there will reveal a LOT of discussion on this topic. I just hope you are keen on reading... You will have to wade through the typical BS they carry on with to get to the good stuff, but it is there.

That's a good start anyway.


i was hoping to avoid reading the gods of suspension thread :lol: :lol:

Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2003 10:12 am
by POS
Dude i could try and explain it, but not only would i confuse you i would confuse myself! :?

Send Sam a Private message and get him to explain it, it makes sense!

Tell him, if he explains it to you, you'll buy him a bottle of SCOTCH!! :drinking: :morning: :morning: :morning:

(sorry Sam) :lol: :lol:

Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2003 7:58 am
by Strange Rover
POS wrote:Dude i could try and explain it, but not only would i confuse you i would confuse myself! :?

Send Sam a Private message and get him to explain it, it makes sense!

Tell him, if he explains it to you, you'll buy him a bottle of SCOTCH!! :drinking: :morning: :morning: :morning:

(sorry Sam) :lol: :lol:


Ahh - forget the sctoch - it seems like Im having a bit of trouble there.

Easiest thing to do to build a linked suspension is to copy something that works. Theres quite a few geting around now.

The thing is at the moment in the US comp seen is that there are lots of rigs with very different setups (in terms of amount of anti squat and height of roll centre - these are the two main things that you can play with) and they all compete very well. The ones with lots of anti squat run tight limiting straps (like John Gilleland) and the ones with less anti squat dont run a limiting strap (like Tiny) or they may still run one.

For outright climbing a limiting strap is probably worthwile on any suspension setup although a very tight one wont let the axle droop as a whole so will cause you to get hung up more in the crawling stuff so this is where IMO the less anti squat and loose limiting strap is better.

I also think that te less anti squat is better especially if you dont have an unbreakable rear axle cause the lower the anti squat the more gently it gets the power to the ground.

Sam