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Now with IRS too

Not quite as bad as a RAV4, think it's sort of in the Nissan X-Trail market.



Yay.

http://www.auto123.com/en/info/news/new ... 41570&pg=1

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new vit, yay
no low range, Grimace
diesel engine variant, yay
monocoque body/chassis, Grimace
H.I.D headlights, yay
Stability control, Grimace
Sat Nav, yay
looks like Rav, Grimace.

even tho its a Suzuki, i think they got it all wrong. apparently

The new Escudo (vit) should be as capable off-road as the old one

somehow, i'm not sure at all. IFS was bad enough, and now IRS. Geeeezus.

hmmmm


Grimace.

Looks very RAV4 ish at the rear

Grimace

No low range, IFS and now IRS, monocque chassis.

I can see a huge sales success to women with prams.

Hope suzuki goes belly up with this offroad mega flop. Stay away in droves.

SiKiD_01 wrote:new vit, yay
no low range, Grimace
diesel engine variant, yay
monocoque body/chassis, Grimace
H.I.D headlights, yay
Stability control, Grimace
Sat Nav, yay
looks like Rav, Grimace.

even tho its a Suzuki, i think they got it all wrong. apparently

The new Escudo (vit) should be as capable off-road as the old one

somehow, i'm not sure at all. IFS was bad enough, and now IRS. Geeeezus.

I thought I read something about retaining a ladder frame chassis?

thats what i thought the new vit would have, well, at least the ladder frame chassis. apparently thats what all the hype was about.

From concept to production, only a few minor changes have been made, including less aggressive front and rear air dams, reworked details such as lighting and mirrors to meet local market requirements and the Grimace transition from ladder frame chassis to a monocoque design.

well, suzuki seem to be going down hill from here, and with no low range, $h!t, better keep clear.

this is a little better, but....

http://www.zukiworld.com/cgi/yabb/YaBB. ... 1118545039

heh, saw pics of that about 6 weeks ago..
[we make components for it where i work]

wait till you see the new sierra looking thing ..

munga wrote:
wait till you see the new sierra looking thing ..

new sierra looking thing ay? seems anything else will be better than the new vit.

got pics?

SiKiD_01 wrote:

munga wrote:
wait till you see the new sierra looking thing ..

new sierra looking thing ay? seems anything else will be better than the new vit.

got pics?

Pics Pics Pics

munga wrote:heh, saw pics of that about 6 weeks ago..
[we make components for it where i work]

wait till you see the new sierra looking thing ..

what's it like? new version of jimny?? any info?

Who says it has no low range Low is 1.970:1

Still can't believe Suzuki are still persisting in rear drum brakes

cj wrote:Who says it has no low range Low is 1.970:1

Like he said.... no low range

Gwagensteve wrote:

cj wrote:Who says it has no low range Low is 1.970:1

Like he said.... no low range

Well it's better than Suzuki have ever offered in a Vit or GV and it's about the same as the new manual Jimny(2.000:1). I suppose it's trying to find something good to say about it given all the other "features":armsup:

Depends on what the diff ratios are..... if it's 5.12's still then it's something like 11% better than current.

If the diffs are something sucky like 4.6's lets just hope the 5.12's can still go in there.

Even so... monocoque chassis and IRS :(

The 2.7 gets 4.3's just like the XL-7 and the 2.0 manual gets 3.909 while the 2.0 auto gets 5.125

cj wrote: the 2.0 manual gets 3.909 while the 2.0 auto gets 5.125

hmmm, i always thought that the autos would have a higher diff ratio than the manuals. is the auto a 5 speed? i wonder why they use the different gearing? gear box ratios? if both are the same 2.0lt engine, the only explaination would be gbox ratios?

The 2.0 gets a 4spd auto and the 2.7 gets the same 5 speed as in the current XL-7. The manual gets a 4.550 1st gear, the 4 speed auto gets 2.826 in 1st and the 5 speed auto has a 3.520 1st gear.

hmmm...

2.0 lt, manual 1st, 4.550, low range, 1.970, and swap in the 5.125 diff ratios.

dont have a crawl calculator handy, but thats pretty low i would think. front and rear air lockers, and IFS/IRS is history.

do you think, instead of bustin 2 CVs all the time, you would be bustin 4?

The rear has a centred diff so if it has CV's with the same operating range as the front then the travel at the wheel will be better but that's still not to say it will be great travel. No ARB for this I reckon but traction control could be fitted. No crawler gears likely for the 2.7 if it is running the same setup as the XL-7 due to a different size input shaft

SiKiD_01 wrote:hmmm...

2.0 lt, manual 1st, 4.550, low range, 1.970, and swap in the 5.125 diff ratios.

dont have a crawl calculator handy, but thats pretty low i would think. front and rear air lockers, and IFS/IRS is history.

do you think, instead of bustin 2 CVs all the time, you would be bustin 4?

assuming i put in the right figures... 45.9379375( ) 1st low
http://www.izook.com/gearcalc.htm

New vitara = Ghay
I mean Grey
Yeah it comes in grey


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yeah 1.5 twincam similar size to the old vitara but looks to have a more ummm agricultural appearance. love to show pics, but i need to pay the bills

is the suzuki caribian new or old?

http://www.suzuki.co.id/

edit: ok i think its just another name for a maruti or lwb?

http://www.bangkokpost.com/290405_Motor ... otor54.php

Just reading that they used a lightweight casting for the rear diff and we all know how well that turned out when they did that for the front diffs

http://4x4singapore.com/index.php?optio ... 5&Itemid=2

(story based on Suzuki in-house product info)

SiKiD_01 wrote:is the suzuki caribian new or old?

http://www.suzuki.co.id/

edit: ok i think its just another name for a maruti or lwb?

http://www.bangkokpost.com/290405_Motor ... otor54.php

i am (and have been) in the process of trying to import these into aus...

It's like the new Jimny having push button transfer options.....

ooooo goodie!!! More electronics to get wet and not work....yaaaay!!