Outer Limits 4x4 Board

Posted: **Sun Jun 19, 2005 6:57 pm**

just thought it might be useful to have a list of things to do/check after flopping or rolling a rig! i'm sure there's other ppl out there that are as dumb as me.... what things do we need to look at before starting the engine again, and why?? what should we check after starting up again?

Posted: **Sun Jun 19, 2005 7:33 pm**

Put handbrake on before putting back onto wheels

Posted: **Sun Jun 19, 2005 7:57 pm**

check oil on level ground

Posted: **Sun Jun 19, 2005 8:04 pm**

leave it sit for a while when back on wheels so all the fluids go back where they're meant to be

Posted: **Sun Jun 19, 2005 8:06 pm**

with a diesel, arnt you suposed to pull the glow plugs and crank it over. i supose with a petrol you could do the same by removing the sparkplugs, but im not sure.........ive never rolled

probably check to make sure ya head isnt dinted too.

Posted: **Sun Jun 19, 2005 8:40 pm**

petrol. let sit for couple mins.
pull plugs and crank over to clear cylinders.
may need to spray or drip petrol down throttle body/carby to start to get rid of the oil.

cheers

Posted: **Sun Jun 19, 2005 10:09 pm**

First thing to check is definately the passengers (they are the ones who can sue:) People before machinery, then a thorough visual check of the vehicle before you try restarting.

All areas where a fluid leak may have occurred, including brake system (master cylinder etc), battery, fuel lines and cooling system.

Depending on the reason for rolling and severity of roll, check undercarraige (Steering etc), any part of the vehicle which may have sustained any impact.

Remove anything loose, such as bumper, mirror, aerial, flared guard. It would really top things off if when limping home something broke off and cuased another accident. If it can't be removed ensure it is secure (imagine bonnet flying up).

If in doubt about the safety of driving away, play it safe and don't drive it. That being said the nature of what we do means that sometimes you may have no option but to try. Not all rollovers are serious, particularly offroad where we are more likely to go over at extremely slow speed as opposed to a highway rollover.

Posted: **Sun Jun 19, 2005 10:11 pm**

first thing, is turn the donk off and get out

Posted: **Sun Jun 19, 2005 10:43 pm**

I just unplug my coil being petrol then turn the motorover a few times.

LudaCris

Posted: **Sun Jun 19, 2005 10:45 pm**

ludacris wrote:I just unplug my coil being petrol then turn the motorover a few times.

LudaCris

Pull a few rubber bungs out of the floor and wipe the mud out

Posted: **Sun Jun 19, 2005 11:38 pm**

I think the idea of pulling spark or glow plugs out is to get rid of residual oil in bores so when you crank the motor over you don't hydraulic lock the engine.

Posted: **Mon Jun 20, 2005 6:26 am**

ludacris wrote:I just unplug my coil being petrol then turn the motorover a few times.

LudaCris

you say it like you have so much experience in this sort of thing........

Posted: **Mon Jun 20, 2005 7:52 am**

DiddyZook wrote:First thing to check is definately the passengers (they are the ones who can sue:) People before machinery, then a thorough visual check of the vehicle before you try restarting.

All areas where a fluid leak may have occurred, including brake system (master cylinder etc), battery, fuel lines and cooling system.

Depending on the reason for rolling and severity of roll, check undercarraige (Steering etc), any part of the vehicle which may have sustained any impact.

Remove anything loose, such as bumper, mirror, aerial, flared guard. It would really top things off if when limping home something broke off and cuased another accident. If it can't be removed ensure it is secure (imagine bonnet flying up).

If in doubt about the safety of driving away, play it safe and don't drive it. That being said the nature of what we do means that sometimes you may have no option but to try. Not all rollovers are serious, particularly offroad where we are more likely to go over at extremely slow speed as opposed to a highway rollover.

damn you sound like a safety officer from rio tinto

Posted: **Mon Jun 20, 2005 12:18 pm**

ludacris wrote:I just unplug my coil being petrol then turn the motorover a few times.

LudaCris

You may as well leave it plugged in.

The reason for pulling plugs out is to avoid Hydraulic compression if the cylinder has filled with oil whilst sleeping.

Definately check all fluid and pull spark/glow plugs and crank till cylinders are clear.

usually only one or two have enough oil to be a problem.

Posted: **Mon Jun 20, 2005 12:31 pm**

try a new line

Posted: **Mon Jun 20, 2005 2:37 pm**

I'm surprised no one has said "get out the camera and get a good photo"

Normally I fall over without any issues, but once I got battery acid and brake fluid onto the carb, which destroyed the plastic part of the choke mechanism, making zook run real bad a day later.
A no spill battery would be very wise, and rinsing off any fluids could be wise after a woopsy, too.
Only once have I had a oil in the wrong places issue, when I fell on right side, in a difficult to recover situation, so it was on side longer than is good..oil got into air filter and smoked like a addict for the rest of Ellis tk.

Important thing is to use common sense, and make sure it is a safe recovery. IE, it won't roll away down a hill, or fall onto a helper etc

christover

Posted: **Mon Jun 20, 2005 2:45 pm**

NAM walks out the windscreen and puts it back on the feat and keeps driving.......Adrian just drives it back on its feet

Posted: **Mon Jun 20, 2005 3:05 pm**

Tiny wrote:NAM walks out the windscreen and puts it back on the feat and keeps driving.......Adrian just drives it back on its feet

top effort by NAM and his spotter there. adrian only drives it back onto his feet when it's still got wheels on the ground

Posted: **Mon Jun 20, 2005 6:03 pm**

thanks for the intelligent comments

how serious is the risk of hydraulic damage from oil in the engine?

Posted: **Mon Jun 20, 2005 6:21 pm**

come on stumped, u know the first thing u should ever do, is see how far ya mad it before ya went over.

Posted: **Mon Jun 20, 2005 8:37 pm**

putting it in 5 gear and pushing it backwards untill all cylinders have done a full revolution will help to clean out the cylynders if they have oil above them. That way the exhaust vavle opens first in the engine and pushes the oil out into the exhaust. Can be fairly smokey when you start up for a while though.

Posted: **Mon Jun 20, 2005 8:46 pm**

putting it in 5 th gear and backwards wont help it depend on were in the stroke the engine stops best way is crank the motor over with a spanner or pull plugs or glow plugs if you think you might have oiled it up

Posted: **Tue Jun 21, 2005 11:41 am**

Couple of things you should consider if you roll...get a new spotter, and pluck the seat out of your arse.

Posted: **Tue Jun 21, 2005 3:31 pm**

Me roll I dont think so.

Posted: **Tue Jun 21, 2005 4:25 pm**

bad_religion_au wrote:
Tiny wrote:NAM walks out the windscreen and puts it back on the feat and keeps driving.......Adrian just drives it back on its feet
top effort by NAM and his spotter there. adrian only drives it back onto his feet when it's still got wheels on the ground

it was pretty much all spotter. i hardly lifted at all! i can't believe how strong adrenaline muscles are.

Posted: **Thu Jun 23, 2005 5:17 pm**

stumped wrote:thanks for the intelligent comments

how serious is the risk of hydraulic damage from oil in the engine?

Posted: **Thu Jun 23, 2005 5:45 pm**

zuk 1.3 push back up and start again

Posted: **Thu Jun 23, 2005 5:51 pm**

if the engine had oil in the cylinders it woodnt have started back up dude.. so there is no chance u can have hydro the engine

Posted: **Fri Jun 24, 2005 1:14 pm**

sorry hypolux tend to disagree with you on this one,the eng may start and bend rods in the mean time.my opinion only still safer to pull plugs and crank over,but it still comes back to individual rollover and circumstances.

Posted: **Fri Jun 24, 2005 2:36 pm**

it would depend on how long the car was shiny side down.

The steps are quite simple

1. Put the car back on its wheels, photograph the damage, make sure it starts

2. Try to drive the obsticle again

3. if it rolls again go back to step 1.

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