Outer Limits 4x4 Board

Gday Guys,

I have about $5000 and am after a strong, reliable (preferably diesel) fourby with good off-road potential. My thoughts:
-MQ Turbodiesel
- Old four runner
- Old Lux
- Sierra
- 60 series diesel

What would be the best option? Any other ideas? Has to have good modification potential as well.

Thanks

Andrew

My thoughts would be to try a lux or a sierra, bit cheaper to run then the patrol and cruiser

All have good modification potential, my pick MQ or 60 for the age that they are they are much stronger trucks ready to take the batterring your about to dish out to them!

I would also say 60 or MQ

hj60

What's the economy like on a diesel 60?

you can buy a petrol powered GQ patrol for that money, why settle for less ?

smokem wrote:What's the economy like on a diesel 60?

should be about 8k's to the litre city. or 12.5litres/100km

Start with the Sierra, and as bits break replace them with bigger/stronger - like lux axles, Vitara engine...

i get about 13l/100 out of my 60, but the injectors have never been done in 400thousand and ive got 33's

i think 12 would be a better estimate.

all depends on what u wanna do with it.... if u want something for longer trips and want highway cruising, then the bigger rigs with larger engines are better. if ur looking at modifying it for hardcore wheelin, then maybe a lux or sierra.... both have heaps of potential with minimal cash being spent, and the sierra is heaps light.

my choice would be a zook, but i'm biased cos i have a sierra already...

If I were to get a 60series diesel. Say if it had 300-350000ks on it, would that serve as a daily driver reliably and be able to hit the bush? I'd like to push the motor pretty hard off-road. Anyone had any experience with 60's diesels?

if u wana do hard wheeling go the zuk

if u wana tour i dont know cos touring is gay

smokem wrote:I'd like to push the motor pretty hard off-road.

why would you want to do that?

Factor gearing, lockers decent suspension into the equation so you don't push the motor hard. No point destroying the engine to get anywhere.

for $5000 I would be getting a Sierra as they are good cheap reliable cars, Strong for their size, great size to learn how to 4wd as they are amazingly capable in stock form but when you do get stuck they are easy to recover. Modifications are generally cheapish and alot can be done. You will alos be able to get a much newer Sierra for your dollars compared to the others.

A $5000 diesel 60 will more than likely have had a pretty hard life by the time you gget it. yes there are good diesel 60s out there that have been looked ater etc but they wont be the ones for sale for $5000

Another option could be a Range Rover

Also how capable are you mechanically. How much of the mods do you want to undertake? Are thinking just bolt on mods or full custom jobs because any 4wd can be made to be an awesome offroad weapon with lots of time and expertise or else it lots of someone elses time and expertise and lots of $$$$

smokem wrote:If I were to get a 60series diesel. Say if it had 300-350000ks on it, would that serve as a daily driver reliably and be able to hit the bush? I'd like to push the motor pretty hard off-road. Anyone had any experience with 60's diesels?

I don't know how hard you can actually push the old 2H. In my experience, the damn thing bogs down to nothing when you hit the throttle. On soft sand, for example, you have to keep the gear low and the revs high. On road you have to give it some spanks too. i find pushing it to 3 - 3.1k rpms before a gear change gets the most from it.

Shadow wrote:i get about 13l/100 out of my 60, but the injectors have never been done in 400thousand and ive got 33's

i think 12 would be a better estimate.

Mines done 305k, and never had the injecters done. I worked out i get 12.5l/100, plus I was told by a diesel tech that i should be getting 21mpg (which works out about what I'm getting).

I'm runnin 31's, so 13/100 sounds good for 33's. Would probably get even better mileage with the stock skinny tyres

I would not buy anything but a sierra for that sort of money.
Just asking for trouble, expense

Can you pick up a nice clean diesel lux for bout 7500? Do they have good potential?

you could get a single cab, or an older dually for around that figure smokem

[quote="smokem"]If I were to get a 60series diesel. Say if it had 300-350000ks on it, would that serve as a daily driver reliably and be able to hit the bush? I'd like to push the motor pretty hard off-road. Anyone had any experience with 60's diesels?[/quote]
Yeah 2H's arn't a bad donk thats unless you dont like being overtakin by 2.4 luxys.

Go The Seirra! their cheap reliable and easy to drive.

Keep on saving and get a coil sprung GQ. Even look at a petrol on Gas as Diesels do cost a fortune to repair.

LudaCris