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Oily Glow Plugs

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 4:16 pm
by joel HJ60
Guys, if you have oil on 2(next to each other) out of your 6 glow plugs, What does this meen? :oops: :oops: :bad-words:

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 6:10 pm
by plowy
if the rig is using oil as well id say a bit of blow buy ie oil getting past the rings

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 6:28 pm
by joel HJ60
Dosn't chew up any oil between 5000km changes.

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 8:17 am
by dumbdunce
do the plugs work?

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 10:45 am
by joel HJ60
As far as I know yes.

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 10:52 am
by dumbdunce
joelthommo wrote:As far as I know yes.
pull them out and put them across the battery for a few seconds, they should glow red hot. if they work, then it's possible you have some bore glazing preventing good oil control (or the rings are just plain worn out), give it an oil change using some oil flus concentrate stuff (200ml of diesel in the oil will do), then take it for a good hard run. you might get back a tad of power you didn't know you had.

cheers

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 10:55 am
by joel HJ60
dumbdunce wrote:
joelthommo wrote:As far as I know yes.
pull them out and put them across the battery for a few seconds, they should glow red hot. if they work, then it's possible you have some bore glazing preventing good oil control (or the rings are just plain worn out), give it an oil change using some oil flus concentrate stuff (200ml of diesel in the oil will do), then take it for a good hard run. you might get back a tad of power you didn't know you had.

cheers
What is meant by that? I've heard it before but don't quite understand it :?: Also is it safe, if the battery puts on 12V wont it kill my plugs?( I'm asking this not knowing how many volts go into my plugs)

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 11:31 am
by dumbdunce
joelthommo wrote:
dumbdunce wrote:
joelthommo wrote:As far as I know yes.
pull them out and put them across the battery for a few seconds, they should glow red hot. if they work, then it's possible you have some bore glazing preventing good oil control (or the rings are just plain worn out), give it an oil change using some oil flus concentrate stuff (200ml of diesel in the oil will do), then take it for a good hard run. you might get back a tad of power you didn't know you had.

cheers
What is meant by that? I've heard it before but don't quite understand it :?: Also is it safe, if the battery puts on 12V wont it kill my plugs?( I'm asking this not knowing how many volts go into my plugs)
no it won't kill your plugs.

bore glazing is where the inside of the cylinders gets coated with a glassy varnish which makes them look very shiny and prevents the rings from sealing propery. it happens to motors that don't get loaded or spend too much time at constant rpm.

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 12:06 pm
by Area54
joelthommo wrote:
dumbdunce wrote:
joelthommo wrote:As far as I know yes.
pull them out and put them across the battery for a few seconds, they should glow red hot. if they work, then it's possible you have some bore glazing preventing good oil control (or the rings are just plain worn out), give it an oil change using some oil flus concentrate stuff (200ml of diesel in the oil will do), then take it for a good hard run. you might get back a tad of power you didn't know you had.

cheers
What is meant by that? I've heard it before but don't quite understand it :?: Also is it safe, if the battery puts on 12V wont it kill my plugs?( I'm asking this not knowing how many volts go into my plugs)
True, some glowies are rated at 7 and 11 volts.

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 1:13 pm
by joel HJ60
So how exactly do you test the on your battery. Thanks guys.

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 6:11 pm
by joel HJ60
Guys, tested all 6 glow plugs today at Tafe. All worked fine:). although plug number 1 and 2 had a lesser amount of oil. I've been told that it's possibaly the rings or the valve stem cover.

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 10:14 pm
by dumbdunce
joelthommo wrote:Guys, tested all 6 glow plugs today at Tafe. All worked fine:). although plug number 1 and 2 had a lesser amount of oil. I've been told that it's possibaly the rings or the valve stem cover.
valve stem seals are never much of an issue on diesels as there is never much manifold vacuum. even though the 2H uses a throttle butterfly to control fueling there is also a large bypass and there is never significant vacuum.

are the plugs actually wet with oil, or just black? if black, it could be a symptom of overfuelling. how much exhaust smoke do you get, and what colour is it?

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 10:18 pm
by joel HJ60
dumbdunce wrote:
joelthommo wrote:Guys, tested all 6 glow plugs today at Tafe. All worked fine:). although plug number 1 and 2 had a lesser amount of oil. I've been told that it's possibaly the rings or the valve stem cover.
valve stem seals are never much of an issue on diesels as there is never much manifold vacuum. even though the 2H uses a throttle butterfly to control fueling there is also a large bypass and there is never significant vacuum.

are the plugs actually wet with oil, or just black? if black, it could be a symptom of overfuelling. how much exhaust smoke do you get, and what colour is it?
They were black but that was just carbon build up I gather. When I first check about a month ago they were covered in the oil. Now I checked again tonday and there was minimal oil just under the lowest part of the thread. I was told to look for blue smoke, but I've never ever seen blue smoke only faint white/grey smoke sometimes on starup/takeoffs.