Outer Limits 4x4 Board

Thinking of doing this to the lux.

Who`s running a centre mounted winch and how did you go about running the cable and what have you used as guides?
Does it matter if the winch isn`t mounted centered accross the car or do you think it would put to much uneven force on the rails (this is what I think).
For those of you that are running a centre winch does the cable spoil on to the drum even every time? I would think that if the first guide is fair enough away from the winch then it should spoil on even every time.

If you have done this then please tell me all about it

Kym Bolton is now running a centre mounted winch. It started as a PTO but he is now making it a hydrolic winch. I makes for an awsome approach angle and the front of his GU looks very clean. He runs the cable along the drivers side chassis rail and it comes out at a small roller fairlead offset to the drivers side. From hearsay only it is a bit tricky to get the drum to wind on properly without bunching up too much. That is why Kym is only using 35m of rope. I can't see the difference myself but apparently it creats more of an angle when winching to an anchor point off set to the passenger side of the vehicle. I can't see how the angle would change as the fairlead is still on the front of the vehicle, its just 12 inches to the right. There is also a guy in NZ that is setting up a high mount winch that is centre mounted upside down under the tray. This is also on a GU coil cab. He hasn't had it running yet though. I don't know how he stopped it leaking oil though. I've seen high mounts leak oil if you over fill them too much.

i know of 2 guys in the lrocv using centre mounted winches
one is high mount, the other pto.
cleaner approach angle, better weight distribution, rear winch without running 2 winches.
both use steel cable that runs rearward around a pulley through a front fairlead.
cable is guided by steel tube (with neccessary angles)at various points.
both trucks handle very well offroad with the major weight inside wheelbase.
david

How do they get both front and rear winching when it's fed through a tube.

toughnut wrote:How do they get both front and rear winching when it's fed through a tube.

Remove hook and pull it out of tube, feed it out the back.

Oh and I know lowe runs one and so does dobbin.
Lowe uses the tube setup and dobbin just uses bolted eyes I think.

Kind of slow if it's a comp truck, wouldn't it? Just thinking out loud. I'm thinking of just recessing my high mount back in the chassis more. I should be able to move it back a good 6 - 8 inches with a bit of modifying.

toughnut wrote:How do they get both front and rear winching when it's fed through a tube.

This has been discussed a few times, and there are pics of the winch setup on nigels landie in the rover section (which I think is one of the 2 modman is referring to).




http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/PHP_Modul ... h&start=30

With this running through all those snatch blocks, instead of pulling the cable through all the way could you just leave it connected at the front and pull the cable through the rear fairlead and use a snatch block on the anchor point? I guess thats the idea.

yes

toughnut wrote:With this running through all those snatch blocks, instead of pulling the cable through all the way could you just leave it connected at the front and pull the cable through the rear fairlead and use a snatch block on the anchor point? I guess thats the idea.

Yes, that is the idea. The only time you need to run the cable through is when you are replacing it.

Winching forward is the same as a front mounted winch - to winch backward you pull the cable out through the rear fairlead and connect it to whatever you want using a snatch block. It will winch slower going backwards but that is no big deal.

HHHHHHMMMMMMMMM! Damb you Guts. Got me thinking that its time to crack out the angle grinder and welder again.

toughnut wrote:HHHHHHMMMMMMMMM! Damb you Guts. Got me thinking that its time to crack out the angle grinder and welder again.

Ya I know what you mean and I`m still putting mine back together and have just repainted the whole chassi after changing a few things on it

to get the cable to spool on neatly with a 300mm wide drum you would need around 6 metres of distance between the drum and rear fairlead,mine is 1.4m away and it's a pain to spool on.the fairlead is in line with the centre of the drum so it bunches up in the centre 3rd,but there's still room for my 60m of 3/8" steel cable.you could use a narrow drum with high sides or try to set up a type of level wind system.

damb you all it would be quite viable to use a mid mount system for me as I have not yet choed the GQ allowing me to build the tray around it with this in mind. the tube idea sounds best, but what would the sugestion be, roller or hawse fairlead?

More and more people are starting to move away from hause fairleads again. Roller fairlead is better for your rope/cable but sticks out a bit.

toughnut wrote:More and more people are starting to move away from hause fairleads again. Roller fairlead is better for your rope/cable but sticks out a bit.

shouldnt be an issue on a centrre mount winch