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Wide track rear.

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2002 8:19 pm
by ToNkA
I may be getting a wide track rear hilux axle housing and ascociated stuff.

My question is, how much wider is it?

and........ If I run a wider track rear, do I need to do anything to the front to match it, or can I just leave it.

I dont want to run wheel spacers at the front etc......

Any info appreciated....

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2002 8:25 pm
by RUFF
3 inches wider and it will be fine without any mods to the front.

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2002 8:38 pm
by NICK
widen the front with IFS hubs, it may work out to be alittle pricey but it avoids the use of wheel spacers and looks alot more factory.


NICK

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2002 8:40 pm
by ToNkA
Ok, sounds good, whats the deal with IFS hubs, can you go into more detail for me?

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2002 9:22 pm
by beebee
The front is pretty pricey!

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2002 9:24 pm
by ToNkA
ok its pricey, someone want to explain what you do to the front?

Does anyone just leave the front stock, or does everyone use spacers?

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2002 9:27 pm
by MissDrew
I am just running spacers all round and still have the wider housing I got (with axles) for $150.00 sitting in the shed :roll:

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2002 9:31 pm
by beebee
I got a quote today of $125 for an IFS model hilux rear. :lol: Just hope there is one in stock. :cry:

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2002 9:33 pm
by beebee
No brakes, diff etc, just housing and axles. Not bad eh!?

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2002 9:34 pm
by MissDrew
Was that with axles? As alot of places try to sell em without.

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2002 9:34 pm
by ToNkA
ToNkA wrote:ok its pricey, someone want to explain what you do to the front?



Just to reitterate.....

Whats the go with the IFS front hub conversion........???

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2002 9:35 pm
by MissDrew
Doh!!!!!!!!!

Thats good, Mine was with brakes, not that I want or need them as I have disks :D

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2002 9:38 pm
by beebee
I WANT DISKS! :x :lol:

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2002 9:43 pm
by RUFF
Tonka the front will be fine as it is.I run my front stock.As the ifs hub swap will cost you around the $500 mark without even buying the hubs,thats just for the adapters to run them.

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2002 9:47 pm
by beebee
beebee wrote:The front is pretty pricey!

Told ya

wide track

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2002 9:48 pm
by moose
when fitting the wider track rear , does it go striaght onto the narrow diff springs , or do they have to be reworked to suit !???? :?

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2002 9:53 pm
by MissDrew
Bolts in.

Not 100% shore but the plate on the bottom MIGHT be a little different. Ruff?

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2002 9:53 pm
by beebee
Yes it goes straight in. Although I'm yet to do it, I'm sure about this. What I don't know about is the handbrake cable and whether the bracket is in the same place and what you do about the increased width of the housing?

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2002 9:54 pm
by MissDrew
You either lengthen the cable or get a new one

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2002 9:55 pm
by RUFF
As long as you use a leafsprung rear axle they bolt straight in to all models.Obviously the coil sprung 4runner rear housing wont bolt in.

Tonka here is a link to a company in the us that sell a kit.
http://www.frontrangeoffroadfab.com/wide.htm

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2002 10:04 pm
by bubs
RUFF wrote:As long as you use a leafsprung rear axle they bolt straight in to all models.Obviously the coil sprung 4runner rear housing wont bolt in.

Tonka here is a link to a company in the us that sell a kit.
http://www.frontrangeoffroadfab.com/wide.htm


or in australia talk to richard @ 4x4 engineering $650 including hubs for both sides

bolt in

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2002 10:08 pm
by moose
even ferozas????????

Re: bolt in

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2002 10:20 pm
by bubs
moose wrote:even ferozas????????


only ones on hilux/4 runner suspension 8)

kool

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2002 10:28 pm
by moose
KOOL !! it is !! :wink:

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2002 10:30 pm
by bubs
You might be able to run the wider hubs on a stock rocky front - i think they are almost the same as a hilux :?:

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2002 12:05 am
by hophoar
Hey Bubs, how much with out the hubs? have you got Richards number?

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2002 12:44 am
by cbr
Bolt's straight in.

When I did mine you also need the shackle plate that is used with the u-bolts from the later model axle. It seems the IFS model axle is slightly bigger in diameter. If you are doing a u-bolt reversal then it does not matter.

Chris.

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2002 7:22 am
by RUFF
Sorry Chris is right depending on what model you have.'88 on will have the wider housing anyway but the earlier models need the ubolts and plates. This also depends on what model wide housing you use. If its from an early 4runner it will bolt straight in as the tubes are the same size.

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2002 8:35 pm
by beebee
Ruff,
don't the 4 runners use a drum with a larger center hole compared to the hilux? By the way, Richard's price on the IFS front hub conversion is $440 per side with new bearings and stuff. Bolt on basically. Phone # 07 3344 1181

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2002 8:48 pm
by RUFF
Yes all wide track rears use a larger centre hole in the drum so make sure that you get all the brakes and drums.Sorry i prob should have mentioned this earlier.

Trust me i will not be doing a spacer conversion on mine :shock: