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Why cut the back off.

Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 5:49 pm
by nicbeer
Hey,

Not strictly tech - content may end up being so.

Seen a lot of people doing it - some for comps and some not.
just wondering why people are doing it.

Is it for looks :)
to extend the wb for tyres
suspension fitment. ie coilovers/shocks centred in rear similar to lj xtreems.
minimising panel damage or removing panel damage.

Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 5:53 pm
by sierrajim
A ute conversion is a simple thing to do and makes it easier to do the following:

- Move the diff back
- lift your fuel tank
- run a roll cage
-minimize panel damage

And if set up in such a way carry more gear.

Some say weight but the rear 1/3 of a sierra only weight 28kg (i weighed mine)

Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 5:54 pm
by largesuzy
1. helps with articulation as there is less to hit on
2. looks tuff
3. minimises panel damage
4. helps fit bigger tyres
5. and did i mention it looks tuff

Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 6:08 pm
by nicbeer
Where do you guys store the spare wheel? how do you hold it in.

Under the tray or above it - i am thinking below as above the tray will add to the cog.

cheers

Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 6:09 pm
by OldGold
Thinking of cutting yours nic?

Been some good sounding cars that would suit your rebody in the squokka lately

Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 6:29 pm
by alien
Go on nic - do the chop and paint the body in the lovely flouro orange to suit your rims!!! hahaha

i think the ute idea is pretty cool, although theres 2 things that dont grab me:

1) no rear speakers
2) no undercover storage for my bike / anything else i want to store. - it all gets mudded

Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 6:35 pm
by DeWsE
Well the next rig I get I would really love to keep the rear intact, but if I want tires larger then 33’s I think the wheel base will need to be extended so much so that the rear will need to come off.

If you cut the rear you really make it a lot easier to work on as well. Think of setting up some custom shock mounts when the rear has been removed compared to intact.

Also to move the diff back more then three inchs you have to relocate the fuel tank.

Lastly search as this topic was flogged a while back. Everyone seemed to decide flat trays are Grimace, but now every one seems to be getting one. A bit like mullets ay.

Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 6:41 pm
by redzook
only reason i got a ute was to strech the wheelbase

nothing to do with fitting tires or flex or panels

exo saves panels
grinder makes room for tires
and wheel base has nothing to do with flex

Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 6:48 pm
by flyinwall
if you want a long wheel base just get a long wheel base to start with just like i did (i got 2 actually one of them i cant use as its got no numbers on it {was like it when i got it and i know it sounds and looks suss} but i might be willing to part with it for the right money)

Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 6:56 pm
by Santos
Suss?

No suss is suggesting that as the numbers on the sj413 are on the firewall (unlike the 1lt's) to cut out the firewall and weld a new one in it's place, grind the edges, smooth over the welds and surrounding are with 2mm of bog to build up a flat surface and respray ;)

Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 6:57 pm
by nicbeer
OldGold wrote:Thinking of cutting yours nic?

Been some good sounding cars that would suit your rebody in the squokka lately
Where u been finding em. I have not seen any except for 1ltrs.

btt - where do you guys store the spare? under or over or up against the cab.

cheers

Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 7:03 pm
by Rhett
I cut mine couse the rear of the tub was getting too hard to fix(multipul rollovers) and it was different to do then. If I started again Id dove tail one to be different.

Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 9:43 pm
by small talk
After my ute is done id like to start a full bodied sierra similar to redzooks old red rig, hardtop, 33's, exo'd, but have the rear cut in on an angle.

Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 9:58 pm
by flyinwall
hey santos it sounds like you have done that once or twice

Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 11:49 pm
by suz_rolly
i will be keeping the back on my lwb even though multiple people are telling me to chop it so they can turn it in to a trailer

why?

because i have not seen a awsome lwb sierra in oz

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 12:40 am
by alien
got flex?

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 10:26 am
by DeWsE
alien wrote:got flex?
Got out of seat pose factor :D

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 10:36 am
by grimbo
adnd here I was thinking that was your Suzuki in your avatar suz_rolly when in fact it isn't but is Geoff pollacks from the USA. Shame on you :D

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 12:36 pm
by suz_rolly
sorry grimbo its hard when you admire some one elses work so much :oops:

thats simalar to what i am aming for :twisted:

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 9:16 pm
by Rhett
:lol:

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 7:21 pm
by MY45
suz_rolly wrote:sorry grimbo its hard when you admire some one elses work so much :oops:

thats simalar to what i am aming for :twisted:
:lol: :lol: Points and laughs :lol: :lol:

Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 12:20 am
by CAP51Z
im gonna leave my rear on, i figure the more tidy it looks, the less hassle i may have with cops & rta, etc: :idea: Eventually it may come off, but it looks so pretty now...Just having arches & flares cut to suit tyres.

Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 2:37 am
by derelict_frog
Sweet, what sort of suspension do u have under that?

Does indeed look nice and tidy!

and u can go camping with out everything getting muddy...

Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 5:53 am
by OldGold
that LWB is uber cool! I love it!

Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 12:05 pm
by jeep97tj
That zuk does look very cool :cool: :cool:

Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 10:35 pm
by CAP51Z
derelict_frog wrote:Sweet, what sort of suspension do u have under that?

Does indeed look nice and tidy!

and u can go camping with out everything getting muddy...
just standard zook leafs in front, the rears are new 1" lifted, but am as yet undecided on what to do with them. May just lose a couple, or go elliptic rear. If the rear does come off, it will become a buggy of sort, with coilovers in rear. The cars been off the road for over a year, fixing things, will be out & about within a couple of weeks im hoping. Thinking of a false floor over the rear, to sleep on, with storge underneat it, & have even less mud to contend with yet again!! Thats assuming i can remember where to find anywhere with either camping or mud or both.

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 6:59 pm
by roc box
looks sweet :cool:

Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 5:37 pm
by bozwon
CAP51Z your car is sweet. makes me want 2 stretch the jimny

Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 5:47 pm
by nicbeer
Need a cut Jimmy. Would look cool.

cheers

Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 7:12 pm
by bozwon
nicbeer wrote:Need a cut Jimmy. Would look cool.

cheers
if i get rear ended or flip the car onto the tailgate bad enough then im gettin the grinder out.
stretch it a few inches n put a tray on