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Does anyone run one of these? there was one going cheap on ebay a while back but i missed out, and there was something on the news the other night about them. Does anyone have any info on them?? I have checked out their web site but was after some opinions>

Cheers,

Adam

It has been proven that all these fuel catalysts DONT WORK. And I think it is now illegal for them to advertise any performance or fuel economy claims.

Save your money. If you want to save fuel, get a tune up, ease up on the right foot or fit LPG.

ISUZUROVER wrote

It has been proven that all these fuel catalysts DONT WORK

They were claiming this as the main basis for purchasing one, only last night? have you had any experience with them? Did anyone else see the segment on it down here in melbourne?

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kranked_dirt wrote:ISUZUROVER wrote

It has been proven that all these fuel catalysts DONT WORK

They were claiming this as the main basis for purchasing one, only last night? have you had any experience with them? Did anyone else see the segment on it down here in melbourne?

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Yeah i saw it too but didnt pay any attention cause there all a bunch scamming pricks

haha thanks for the replies guys, looks like i should steer clear

If I fit 1 Fitch, 2 Hyclones, an Atomiser and a Positive Ion Generator ........



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kimclive wrote:If I fit 1 Fitch, 2 Hyclones, an Atomiser and a Positive Ion Generator ........



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With that set up i would say use 3 hyclones for sure

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Then we would be getting free surplus fuel from you as it would be makin the stuf.

they were quoting figures on the tv the other day. Up to 10% (i think) improvement in economy and apparently more power (no figures for power)

dont think a news program would put that on if it was completely unfounded. (not sure what news it was tho)

like all of these things they are typically only suited to very specific applications and more often than not particular types of engines. So whilst that dude on the tv with his ??? car got 10%, its more likely that that is the absolute best application, and most other cars do not get even half of the improvement.

on the news the Cruiser on the dyno, supposidly got an extra 5kw, and blew less smoke, and was full time 4wd,

Installation of the fitch probably included a full tune which is where the horsepower came from.

Everyone should read this:

http://www.fuelsaving.info/debunk.htm

And specifically for "fuel catalysts" like the fitch here

http://www.fuelsaving.info/catalysts.htm

The other thing to consider is that a sample size of one or 2 cars with barely measurable improvements does not prove anything.

Shadow wrote: dont think a news program would put that on if it was completely unfounded.

Since when??? Many news stations have reported on "water powered cars", perpetual motion machines and other such scientific impossibilities in the past. Anything for ratings.

Well I would only be paying attention to something with "fuel catalyst" in it if I had a car that needs to run on LRP. Apparently you need some sort of catalyst because the servos are cutting supply.

Apart from that I'd say stay away.

there is an ex copper here in wa who lives in geraldton, he has been working on a device for the past 25 years and has finally perfected it in the last 2 years , its more suited to fuel injected vehicles, he is running it on his late model fairlane, rac have tested it ive seen the figures..... 30% increase in power nearly half the fuel usage, a huge reduction in emmisions i mean next to 70% less , he has been approached by a big name oil company with offers in the millions, so as u do he said no, a week later he got death threats and being an ex copper he had all the right links. his biggest problem at the moment is that he wants to much money up front for some one to buy into it and alot of royalties and exclusive rights of manufacture for the computer. this device i have personally seen running and driven the vehicle, , this really needs to be on the market, but no one is really interested because of the cost and i think wat it will do to the fuel industry. so any one out there with enough balls to do sumthing about it with lots of money get in touch with me .

ISUZUROVER wrote:

Shadow wrote: dont think a news program would put that on if it was completely unfounded.

Since when??? Many news stations have reported on "water powered cars", perpetual motion machines and other such scientific impossibilities in the past. Anything for ratings.

A "water powered car" isn't that far fetched - it just means they are splitting water into hydrogen and oxygen and burning the hydrogen.

The process is old, google "electrolysis", it's just that they can't convert water into hydrogen/oxygen efficiently enough to make it worthwhile because it requires a significant amount of energy to begin with to make enough fuel to keep the car going.

At least that's what they were having problems with last time I read about it.

bazooked wrote:there is an ex copper here in wa who lives in geraldton, he has been working on a device for the past 25 years and has finally perfected it in the last 2 years , its more suited to fuel injected vehicles, he is running it on his late model fairlane, rac have tested it ive seen the figures..... 30% increase in power nearly half the fuel usage, a huge reduction in emmisions i mean next to 70% less , he has been approached by a big name oil company with offers in the millions, so as u do he said no, a week later he got death threats and being an ex copper he had all the right links. his biggest problem at the moment is that he wants to much money up front for some one to buy into it and alot of royalties and exclusive rights of manufacture for the computer. this device i have personally seen running and driven the vehicle, , this really needs to be on the market, but no one is really interested because of the cost and i think wat it will do to the fuel industry. so any one out there with enough balls to do sumthing about it with lots of money get in touch with me .

So with offers in the "Milliions" why try to sell it???

Just take the offer..

Hear these stories but dont make sense??

Bazzle

if he took the offer from the oil company do u think they would really produce this and sell it to the public??, i think not.

It's not going to benefit the public if he holds onto it either......


I find it hard to believe a "device" can give such a big performance gain.
I don't want to sound sceptic, but 30% increase? So if you put one on an F1 car it will make an instant 180 extra horses
Quick, give Jean Todt from Ferrari a ring

absoloutely dude huge increase in power and the fuel economy was nearly halfed.

bazooked wrote:absoloutely dude huge increase in power and the fuel economy was nearly halfed.

i can get half the fuel economy by staying in 3rd gear, i dont need any fuel catalyst.

I saw a show a while back on the ABC about eccentric aussie inventers. One guy figured out a way of increasing fuel economy simply by vibrating the fuel off the engine vibrating which somehow increased its burning efficiency (something to do with making the fuel gasious i think), scientists had tested his methods and at the time hadnt completely figured out how it worked but said it did work.

Another guy built a steam powered cortina i think it was (it was a ford of some sort) during the 60's i believe, he got heaps of interest from US car manufacturers and they shipped him and his car over there to do demos. The reason it never took off was something to do with fuel prices decreasing at the time and the car companies decided it wasnt worth developing. Apparently it went just as hard as a petrol powered car. I guess technically thats a water powered car as well.

Being as dependant as we are on oil, its not hard to believe the conspiracies behind such inventions not being used, there are vested interests in the status quo by very powerful companies.

I haven't followed it up, but a bloke at work said there was a thing on telly the other day about Honda. Whether anyone saw it? somethign about a Hydrogen powered car, due out next decade or something.......?


The idea of a water powered car is simple, as mentioned above. It's the case of efficiently splitting the Hydrogen and Oxygen that's the issue.....

-Nemesis- wrote:I haven't followed it up, but a bloke at work said there was a thing on telly the other day about Honda. Whether anyone saw it? somethign about a Hydrogen powered car, due out next decade or something.......?


The idea of a water powered car is simple, as mentioned above. It's the case of efficiently splitting the Hydrogen and Oxygen that's the issue.....

Fuel cell with an electic motor that would be the way to go

These are buses in WA

http://www.dpi.wa.gov.au/fuelcells/

ISUZUROVER Wrote

Everyone should read this:

http://www.fuelsaving.info/debunk.htm

And specifically for "fuel catalysts" like the fitch here

http://www.fuelsaving.info/catalysts.htm

The other thing to consider is that a sample size of one or 2 cars with barely measurable improvements does not prove anything.

Thanks for those links mate, that was exactly what i needed. There is some great info on that site.

cheers,

Adam

does anyone know anyone who has tried the copper rings repco is flogging for injector tips of EFI cars? can't remember the name of them now.

Drop Bear wrote:I saw a show a while back on the ABC about eccentric aussie inventers. One guy figured out a way of increasing fuel economy simply by vibrating the fuel off the engine vibrating which somehow increased its burning efficiency (something to do with making the fuel gasious i think), scientists had tested his methods and at the time hadnt completely figured out how it worked but said it did work.

Another guy built a steam powered cortina i think it was (it was a ford of some sort) during the 60's i believe, he got heaps of interest from US car manufacturers and they shipped him and his car over there to do demos. The reason it never took off was something to do with fuel prices decreasing at the time and the car companies decided it wasnt worth developing. Apparently it went just as hard as a petrol powered car. I guess technically thats a water powered car as well.

Being as dependant as we are on oil, its not hard to believe the conspiracies behind such inventions not being used, there are vested interests in the status quo by very powerful companies.

also one guy had a lpg setup that used the stock computer and all that shiznat....worked great

bazooked wrote:there is an ex copper here in wa ...........has been approached by a big name oil company with offers in the millions, so as u do he said no......................

I've gotta say good on'im for holding out. Especially if it actually works.

Remember Ralph Sarich? His "orbital" technology was (I believe) bought by GM I think, and promptly shelved.
The steam power technology in the 60s was also bought by a car company and shelved.

Hmmm.......it would seem.........if there's a readily available device which is supposed to save shitloads of fuel, maybe it doesn't work. coz if it did the big boys would snap it up and shelve it..........

Repco is currently selling the 'Vapouriser' dont any other details though.

turps wrote:Repco is currently selling the 'Vapouriser' dont any other details though.

that's the one. similar claims of better economy etc. surprised repco would go in for something so cheezy, it's more of a supercheap thing.