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engine swap

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 8:07 am
by the plough
In a few months hopefully i will be retiring the 2.4l deisel, but i need a new engine. Looking at 2.8lturbo (3LT) but unsure whether it is a simple swap over job or is any modification is needed, if so how much? How hard is it to fir power steering to the hilux???
thanks :lol:

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 8:12 am
by the plough
as well as does neone know of any places to get these 3lt???i have got some pplaces but prefer to try and see everything first!
cheers

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 8:52 am
by De-lux
there is no such engine as the 3LT... someone's having you on (as far as i know)


you can buy the 2.8 Litre engine and put an aftermarket turbo on it like thousands of others, but i think the engine you want is the 3 - litre turbo engine, which is called the <dumbdunce fill this spot in>

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 9:43 am
by Mytqik
Currently you will have the 2L diesel moter (2.4L), there is a 3L which 2.8L & a 5L which is a 3.0L engine. Neither the 3L or the 5L came fatory turbo charged like the 2LT was. (As a side line a 2LT is not just a 2L with a turbo, there are a few minor differences)

So your options would be to bolt a 3L or 5L in which is a direct bolt up no changes required at all & then turbo charge it. However you will be looking at anywhere between $3-5000 for a good motor then another $2500-3000 for the turbo kit. The downside here apart from cost is that you are now turbo charging a motor that was never designed to accept it.

The better option would be the factory turbo's. There are 2 that Toyota do. I is a direct injection 3L which is in the new Hilux & the other came out in the last hilux & prado models.

Dumbdunce really would be the best person to give you engine codes & how easy/hard they are to bolt up.

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 10:03 am
by De-lux
i'll sell you my 2.8 Litre diesel... :D 1993 model with 198,000kms on the clock. starts first time, everytime. You can even see it running if ya want :armsup:

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 11:54 am
by glenxr650
Isn't there a 3 litre turbo diesel that comes in a surf as well as a 2.4 turbo? That is factory turbo isn't it?

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 12:03 pm
by gotoy
If your running a 2L engine at the moment the engines which will bolt in directly are the 2.8 3L and the 3.0 5L. The former 2 are not factory turbo and I would question whether the engines can actually stand a turbo.

Another engine, found in Surfs and some LC's is the 1KZ-TE, a 3litres engine with a little awesome power. 1KZ has a factory fitted turbo.

If you are running a 2L engine now, chances are your gearbox is G40 or G52. These gearboxes will not stand up to the power of a turbo, well they will function, but not for very long. The gearbox you should aim for is the R151 series.

Have you considered a 2LT engine, a little more power than a 2L, but will fit directly onto your existing gearbox.

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 12:09 pm
by Mytqik
glenxr650 wrote:Isn't there a 3 litre turbo diesel that comes in a surf as well as a 2.4 turbo? That is factory turbo isn't it?
Yes there is but it is not a 5L motor.

After doing a bit of goggling I came up with:

1KZ-T:
4-cyl.in-line OHC,
88kw @ 3600 rpm
290N.m. @ 2400 rpm

They also make a 1KZ-TE with an electronic fuel pump

And also at 3 litres in capacity is turbo diesel fitted to the new hilux:

The 1KD-FTV engine is a 3.0 litre four cylinder turbo-charged and inter-cooled engine, also with a 16-valve DOHC configuration. Maximum power is 120 kW at 3 400 r/min and peak torque of 343 Nm is delivered between 1 400 r/min and 3 200 r/min.

Hope this helps.

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 12:12 pm
by gotoy
The 1KD was only released a few years ago and is the new version of the 1KZ. The 1KD would be exoensive.

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 10:04 pm
by the plough
[quote="gotoy"]
Another engine, found in Surfs and some LC's is the 1KZ-TE, a 3litres engine with a little awesome power. 1KZ has a factory fitted turbo.

Have you considered a 2LT engine, a little more power than a 2L, but will fit directly onto your existing gearbox.[/quote]

I have heard rumours that the surfs like blowing heads??.. But i 2lt sounds simple and easy. all i want is a bit more towing and highway power. The 2l in it has already been everywhere where i wanted it to go but as i said lacks highway and towing power..
Neone know where to get 2lt motors...want complete rebuilt one!

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 10:30 pm
by gotoy
The 2LT is renouned for blowing heads not the 1KZ. Both maybe found in the Surfs.

If you just want a little more power I would suggest a 3l or 5l, non turbo, and a straight swap.

For 2LT you see here:

http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/index.php?u ... /index.htm