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ifs rear springs in 4runner
Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 10:26 am
by DVS-4x4
just yesterday i put in a set of IFS rear springs into my solid axle '85 4runner it sits a a bit low in the rear but doff bloks will fix that but after i cut out the 2 load bearing springs i was only left with 3 leafs in the pack should i add few more leafs or wat?
its got bullsh!t flex tho!
Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 2:51 pm
by STUMPY
How long are your shackles?
they need to be 200mm eye to eye for a half decent shackles angle.
Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 3:09 pm
by Gribble
I reckon you have 150mm shackles, like stumpy said, run some 200mm jobbies. Should sort it out for you. Although you would have some wicked drop with those ones you have on now i would be worried about inverting the spring, and thats bad.
Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 3:26 pm
by Slayer
ye dude go out to 200 or 220 mm eye to eye shackles, this should give u a better angle and some more lift.. and help u aviod any more than a 50mm lift block if u still need more hight to clear rubber..
pm me for more info on the shackles
Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 4:39 pm
by redzook
if the shackle dosent lay against the chassis whats the matter with it?
looks like it will keep low and flexy what more do u want?
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Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 1:15 pm
by DVS-4x4
Gribble wrote:I reckon you have 150mm shackles, like stumpy said, run some 200mm jobbies. Should sort it out for you. Although you would have some wicked drop with those ones you have on now i would be worried about inverting the spring, and thats bad.
no f@ck me dead they are 200mm eye to eye
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Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 4:18 pm
by STUMPY
DVS-4x4 wrote:Gribble wrote:I reckon you have 150mm shackles, like stumpy said, run some 200mm jobbies. Should sort it out for you. Although you would have some wicked drop with those ones you have on now i would be worried about inverting the spring, and thats bad.
no f@ck me dead they are 200mm eye to eye
if they are the snake racing ones, they are not 200mm unless they custom made them for you. either that or you have an elephant in the back of the 4runner
Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 4:50 pm
by scrapin'
200 eye to eye dvs n i measured them last night and they are snake ones dont make sense but thats how it is!
Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 4:51 pm
by scrapin'
200 eye to eye dvs n i measured them last night and they are snake ones dont make sense but thats how it is!
Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 5:33 pm
by 4sum4
redzook wrote:if the shackle dosent lay against the chassis whats the matter with it?
looks like it will keep low and flexy what more do u want?
Because they will invert and stay invert and also bullshit hop
you need 250mm eye to eye if you wanna keep that set up and i hope your got a track bar
Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 5:48 pm
by redzook
4sum4 wrote:redzook wrote:if the shackle dosent lay against the chassis whats the matter with it?
looks like it will keep low and flexy what more do u want?
Because they will invert and stay invert and also bullshit hop
you need 250mm eye to eye if you wanna keep that set up and i hope your got a track bar
u must have miseed the bit where i said
if the shackle dosent lay against the chassis whats the matter with it?
i had a simialr angle shackle in my redzook and couldnt fault it
Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 8:18 pm
by RUFF
Without a track Bar you will bend those springs on the first trip out.
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Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2005 9:38 am
by DVS-4x4
yeah the track bar is comin this week, and the shakle mounts are being moved back bout an inch or so, ther is a bit of weight in the rear with the sh!t arse canopy on weighs a f@cking ton
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Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2005 9:54 am
by spazbot
DVS-4x4 wrote:yeah the track bar is comin this week, and the shakle mounts are being moved back bout an inch or so, ther is a bit of weight in the rear with the sh!t arse canopy on weighs a f@cking ton
200mm long maybee but not 200mm eye to eye, now measure from the begining of one bolt to the begining of the other, they look about 165 eye to eye
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Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2005 10:26 am
by taziiy
spazbot wrote:DVS-4x4 wrote:yeah the track bar is comin this week, and the shakle mounts are being moved back bout an inch or so, ther is a bit of weight in the rear with the sh!t arse canopy on weighs a f@cking ton
200mm long maybee but not 200mm eye to eye, now measure from the begining of one bolt to the begining of the other, they look about 165 eye to eye
looking at the pic i would agree with spazbot they look like there 160 -170 eye to eye
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Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2005 3:45 pm
by DVS-4x4
180mm to be correct, and as the thread asks about the springs not the shackles so stik to the question!
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Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2005 4:31 pm
by STUMPY
DVS-4x4 wrote:180mm to be correct, and as the thread asks about the springs not the shackles so stik to the question!
fark man, people are just trying to help you out. obviously you don't see the source of your problems and if you don't want to listen to alot of people who have done it before than don't post the question. if you want it sit higher, by adding more load leafs it will make minimal change. if you replace the shackles with ones that are long enough, that will solve many of your problems.
Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2005 4:33 pm
by STUMPY
if you want to continue to run the snake shackles but fix the ride height issue, i'd suggest cutting of your rear spring hanger off and welding it 2" further back. that way you will have a nice shackle angle and a more comfortable ride and correct ride height.
Re: ??????
Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2005 5:37 pm
by -Richo-
DVS-4x4 wrote:and the shakle mounts are being moved back bout an inch or so
Why go to all the bother of doing this when all you need is 200mm eye to eye shackles (as in centre of pin hole to centre of pin hole). Either make them yourself or PM Slayer and he'll do you a good price for some. I faintly recall a thread buy someone all about setting up IFS rear springs with lots of good links...
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And BTW as Tony said youll bend those springs running 3 leaves only, i slightly bent mine and i am running 2 load leaves as well. Id highly recommend a trac bar before you go out wheelin again too.
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Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2005 8:27 pm
by DVS-4x4
yeah iput the load leafs backrides a bit better
Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2005 9:08 pm
by diesel028
As Drop Bear said, PM Slayer and he will make you some 200mm e2e. He does a good job too.