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Motor options **update**

Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 9:29 pm
by LTDHO
I know it seems this topic has been done to death but I think this will be a little different.

The vehile is a Sept 1990 Vitara with 1.6 carby. The whole vehicle is stock.

I don't want hill climber, or dyno beast.

I want something that accelerates (not as fast as my LTD) but better. I don't want to make the efficancy worst.

Now I read the Hilux bits are the way to go but I only want about 100fwhp. Well I want as much as the standard driveline (turning 30.5's) will handle.

Is there a motor that will suit my neads and easy to fit?
Or will I have to turbo?

Cheers

Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 9:44 pm
by bazooked
go the turbo u will be better off :D

Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 10:06 pm
by Santos
Get an 8valve EFi from a jap importer or from the states and wack on the 4age supercharger :D

but if you insist turbocharge it :twisted:

Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 10:20 pm
by Beastmavster
Keep the Carby engine, and just get the 8V EFI intake manifold and supercharge it with a 4AGZE supercharger.

The lower compression of the Carby engine would be of benefit here.

This would also work out about as cheap as any other engine swap and probably a lot less work and $$$$ than most.


otherwise you have the options of stuff like 16V vitara, 2 litre 16V vitara, Baleno 1.8 etc.

Anything outside of those options is gonna be hard to do due to lack of conversion kits and the "all-in-one" arrangement of the gearbox and transfer case.

If you were to go for somethign different a SR20 turbo or similar would be the go.

Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 10:22 pm
by CRUSHU
mmmm.... turbo it. You have bad luck with belt driven air pumps!! The exhaust manifold would have to fall off for it to stop pumping!!

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 9:11 pm
by LTDHO
Looks like forced induction is the way to go...

The other problem with the current motor is the water leak :( I think it's the block!
:cry:

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 9:52 pm
by cj
With the leak in your block have you checked the welsh plugs.

Have a look at this http://wildcatent.freeyellow.com/zookmods/ for a 8v turbo build. The builder is Wildgoody on zukiworld.com

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 1:21 pm
by LTDHO
Thanks for the link cj, had a good read.

I will check and hope the welch plugs are the leak.

Being the I want as much power the trans will handle. What is the suggested turbo for this?

Mazda 323 or TX3?

What else are there?

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 9:08 pm
by Santos
err.. the tx3 and 323 turbo are one of the same :D
(Suzuki enthusiast 1st, dabble in the MAzda /b-Series for a lil funtop)

Seriously though i'd be going something sub-2lt engine... maybe the toyota starlet turbo? (it's like a 1.3L too)

Mazda/Tx3 stuff is usually grossly inflated in value (kind of like Suzukis! :P)

Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 3:45 pm
by LTDHO
Ok, slight change in thought here.

The Welch Plug on the side of the motor below the intake and above the starter is leaking big time.

Now I could just pop it out and put in a new one but the engine is getting on, so I am thinking of another motor.

I have just been told that there are 2.0 carby motors for these at the importers. Not sure if this is true (can someone confirm?) and now I want to put the 2.0 in it.

Does anyone know whether this will work?
Can I get a EFT motor and put my standard carby on it?

By the way I have a T2 turbo lined up for whichever motor I decide to run.