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i have searched at length (and found many interesting threads) but i have failed to find any thread that suggests which serria is the 'ideal' one to start a project on so...

if you were starting form scratch (as i am) is there a "best" serria to start a project on... 1lt, NT, WT or coilly (although my readings suggest the coilly is not the best version to pick) and what of the maruti (sp?) ute is it worth looking at?

i figure i want to run no bigger than 32' tyres so will plan my mods subject to that... the project must be a road drivable (if that makes a difference)

any suggestions welcome

if your only goin 32's just get a widetrack so u get a bit of extra width and strength

soft hard long or short is your descision

be different go with the coily

nah dont there expensive and have to many bad points



go with a widerack leafy swb i think thats the best bet

soft top too chicks luve it

RB zook wrote:
soft top too chicks luve it

'cept like when it's in the middle of winter, freezing cold and your shocks are worn out on te trip to hers..

The best model Sierra, LWB W/T (88).

Suggestion...
Unless you want to go through and enjoy the process of building up the car, then save your cash and buy one already modified. As an example, I picked up a stock Maruti LWB (1L) for $2000. Now, I've also picked up a LWB Sierra with Gti head, lifted, sprung, locked, tyred, accessorised for $4000, both with RWC. I couldn't do to the Maruti what I've bought in the Sierra for the extra $2000.
Cheers...
Con

thanks already!

ive done a lot of 4wd touring ... as opposed to 'wheeling' and want to have a dabble and have settled on a suzuki for the cost factor but it must be a 2nd car (i sometimes drive the princely distance of 1.5km to work when the weather is foul)

ill be going soft top unless i find a 'stupid deal' on a hard top... i want to fold the windscreen down and occasionally shoot out of it, you can still do that in the country

so sbw or lbw... i understand that lbw will be more stable (and should ride smoother... in a suzuki kind of way) and is there any advantage, i see most of the 'serious' cars come buggies have streached the wb, is this an arguement to start with a lwb?

there is a couple of good deals in the cars for sale section at the moment

a suzuki is a fair choice in vehicle.

a sierra is even better.

but the best would have to a Holden Drover!

True or false Holden drovers front clips have more room for larger tyres?? If so this will help fit those 32's without too much lift which will help with your COG. i had 32in mongrels on my drover with only 2in body lift and 2in extended shackelsm but they touched the gaurds in a couple of places on full compression.

Brock.

small talk wrote:True or false Holden drovers front clips have more room for larger tyres?? If so this will help fit those 32's without too much lift which will help with your COG. i had 32in mongrels on my drover with only 2in body lift and 2in extended shackelsm but they touched the gaurds in a couple of places on full compression.

Brock.

how much lift did u get from ruf and hiluxs in the rear

false. drover and sierra front clip have same dimensions.

besides the cosmetic differences the only real difference is that drovers came out with springs with an extra leaf.

also had the unique plastic windows. i know most people reckon they're more of a problem than asset but if you love cruisin in summer they're the best. no door frames

at this point in time im thinking coil conversion... or spoa at the least (if it was good enough for my lux then it has to be good enough for a suzuki!)

i for whatever reason dont want to body lift if i dont have to... there is something very "un-engineering" about block of alloy under the body

ive got plenty of time, ill start looking for a wt soft top, maybe a lbw! im assuming the flairs are the big giveaway, but im guessing post 88 will do?

CptnBarney wrote:Suggestion...
Unless you want to go through and enjoy the process of building up the car, then save your cash and buy one already modified. As an example, I picked up a stock Maruti LWB (1L) for $2000. Now, I've also picked up a LWB Sierra with Gti head, lifted, sprung, locked, tyred, accessorised for $4000, both with RWC. I couldn't do to the Maruti what I've bought in the Sierra for the extra $2000.
Cheers...
Con

Best to build it yourself, or get it built for u, as you will spend the rest of the cars life, fixing or making right other peoples booty fab and shizter work.
and you payed premium price for it

Mock

Clancy wrote:false. drover and sierra front clip have same dimensions.

besides the cosmetic differences the only real difference is that drovers came out with springs with an extra leaf.

also had the unique plastic windows. i know most people reckon they're more of a problem than asset but if you love cruisin in summer they're the best. no door frames

Your faulse maybe faulse, square headlight drovers, have the same dimensions on the outside of the car, but have more room inside the headlight bucket, realy only relevant to sierras that are SPUA with ruff and big tyres.


Mock

ljxtreem wrote:

Clancy wrote:false. drover and sierra front clip have same dimensions.

besides the cosmetic differences the only real difference is that drovers came out with springs with an extra leaf.

also had the unique plastic windows. i know most people reckon they're more of a problem than asset but if you love cruisin in summer they're the best. no door frames

Your faulse maybe faulse, square headlight drovers, have the same dimensions on the outside of the car, but have more room inside the headlight bucket, realy only relevant to sierras that are SPUA with ruff and big tyres.


Mock

I think this is only relevent if you are chopping out the wheel arch to make that more room Mock... the wheel arch is the same drover to sierra.

Best to build it yourself, or get it built for u, as you will spend the rest of the cars life, fixing or making right other peoples booty fab and shizter work.
and you payed premium price for it

Mock [/quote]

Mock,
That's why you get receipts for all work done, check its all still under warranty, and when you prove the motor was installed by a known builder of Zooks, you go to sleep in the back of your LWB somewhere deep in the bush, happy at the thoughts of others slaving away in their garages.
Cheers...
Con
PS: Wish I could work out how to use the "quote" feature properly!

Building the car yourself or having it built yourself can give you a better appreciation for the mods as they progress.

You can also build a car the way YOU want it, not how the last owner wanted it. eg, some like SPOA others don't.

Building or getting thecar built yourself also maens that you can oversee each step of the vehicles modifications to ensure that they are done correctly.

I did hear of a guy who bought a car that was "built", his steering shaft turned out to be a tent pole. Car was built by a workshop, not in a back yard.

Thats an awesome zook for 4K, mine was pretty much stock for that :(

I rekon u wont notice the dif between nt, or wt maybe lwb lol, but mainly only if your doing it up heaps...

And if u just want 32"'s i have 31"s mongrels (prolly about 32 with all the extra grip poking out around them) and they dont touch anywhere and all i have is a 2" body lift and extended shackles with flat springs....

I think, bigger tires=longer wheel base
smaller tires= shorter wheel base

Tim D wrote:I think, bigger tires=longer wheel base
smaller tires= shorter wheel base

fair point.... 32' being "smaller"?

there is a really nice ute in the 4 sale section i think this is the most suitable for u go check it out i even got ya a pic

gee crispy i wonder why you so convieniently had that pic

crispy zook wrote:there is a really nice ute in the 4 sale section i think this is the most suitable for u go check it out i even got ya a pic

i like it
wana swap?
lol
Phil

Get a LWB to start with, you will only be extending a shorty eventually anyway

greg wrote:

ljxtreem wrote:

Clancy wrote:false. drover and sierra front clip have same dimensions.

besides the cosmetic differences the only real difference is that drovers came out with springs with an extra leaf.

also had the unique plastic windows. i know most people reckon they're more of a problem than asset but if you love cruisin in summer they're the best. no door frames

Your faulse maybe faulse, square headlight drovers, have the same dimensions on the outside of the car, but have more room inside the headlight bucket, realy only relevant to sierras that are SPUA with ruff and big tyres.


Mock

I think this is only relevent if you are chopping out the wheel arch to make that more room Mock... the wheel arch is the same drover to sierra.

Tru, yes I agree


Mock

sierrajim wrote:
I did hear of a guy who bought a car that was "built", his steering shaft turned out to be a tent pole. Car was built by a workshop, not in a back yard.

I also heard that this car came with an engineers certificate.

muppet_man67 wrote:

sierrajim wrote:
I did hear of a guy who bought a car that was "built", his steering shaft turned out to be a tent pole. Car was built by a workshop, not in a back yard.

I also heard that this car came with an engineers certificate.

maybe it was a thick walled tent pole?