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Drive line replacement questions
Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 10:00 pm
by Hoppy11
The mission was to replace the old SD33 and 4 speed in the MQ wagon to either a high powered Holden V6 of V8 complete with auto, the problem is that no one makes an adaptor for the transfer case that i have (the one that bolts dierctly to gearbox), so the only option is to change the transfer case to the one that uses the small propshaft between the gearbox and transfer case, which I'm told never came on the deisel models?? (Dellow told me this), they also told me that the propshaft style case from the L28 models wont fit to the chassis of the SD33 models, not sure why, I thought that the chassis would have been the same, I would have thought that if i got hold of the propshaft case complete with mounts then it would just bolt to the chassis, but the guy's from Dellow said it wouldn't, anyone know the facts???
Cheers
Hoppy
Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 10:04 pm
by ozy1
the divorced transfer case your talking about, was actually mounted to the bash plate if i remeber correclty, so youd have to fab up some custom mounts, or get the bash plate as well, as they had the divorced transfer in the L28 wagon, so it 'should' bolt into yours as tyhe chassis are the same other than a few brackets and shiat,
also depending on the lenght of your engine gearbox combo, with the divorced transfer, you may have to change lengths of your tail shafts,
Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 10:11 pm
by nischev
There is hope for your auto conversion. I got an adapter for t400 to mq transfer from seaton engineering in perth contact:
Seatons Engineering
36 Rogers Way Landsdale 6065 (08) 9409 6935
It works real well and was an easy fit, and doesnt require a change of transfer. Pretty sure they do one for t700 aswell if not V6 conversions in moree nsw do.
Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 10:20 pm
by nischev
I should add that there is a lot more to putting the auto in then originally thought. The engine ,gearbox, transfer combo was 300mm longer with the auto and adapter than the original combo with V8.
Engine had to be moved forward 100mm and transfer back 200mm, this was in a shorty could get away with just moving the transfer back 300mm in a lwb I think.
Any more questions just ask.
Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 10:35 pm
by Hoppy11
Cheers i will contact Seatons Engineering I'm only 400 k's north of them in Geraldton, So if the tranfer can stay in the same place, so the prop shaft don't have to be changed, It may be possible to move the engine and box forward cause a V8 or V6 will be shorter than the SD33 ?? yea.
Hoppy
Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 10:39 pm
by nischev
I dare say you will have to move transfer and get shafts modified. There is not much room in front of a V8 with only being moved 100mm forward. If it is a LWB i would move the transfer rather than the engine as moving the engine forward moves the main weight forward and affects steering etc aswell.
Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 10:47 pm
by Hoppy11
I see your point, i suppose as long as the front of the V6 or V8 is no more forward than the original engine the weight distribution should be ok then
Hoppy
Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 10:51 pm
by nischev
Yeh should be.
check this out for a few pics and some info
http://www.4wdmonthly.com.au/forum/inde ... 8;start=50
Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 11:04 pm
by Hoppy11
just a quick question, do you remember how much the adaptor cost you
Hoppy
Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 7:04 am
by nischev
The adapter was around $900 dollars.
Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 10:39 pm
by Hoppy11
Well my next question is, does anyone have a divorced type transfercase for sale, with the bashplate would be good, actually two would be good, I have a mate who wants one too.
Cheers
Hoppy
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 7:10 am
by nischev
What do you need the divorced type transfer for? The adapter I got was for the Attached type transfer
Or are you going to do it another way?
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 7:34 am
by MKPatrolGuy
Hoppy11 wrote:Well my next question is, does anyone have a divorced type transfercase for sale, with the bashplate would be good, actually two would be good, I have a mate who wants one too.
Cheers
Hoppy
I have one, Where are you?
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 10:08 am
by v8zuki
i have an mq wagon with adivorced transfer i fitted a v6 auto to it using std length 2.8 driveshafts including the one from the transfer to g/box just used an adaptor uni joint to mate holden to nissan works well
how well you ask??
hows 11l/100km hwy , 13l/100km town for fuel economy ,very similar acceleration to a std commodore wont drag off a modded one but will dust most stockers
wheel spin easy be carefull in the wet ,sand on fraser island towing a camper no sweat towing car trailer loaded still slight struggle on hills but not that bad
all up it goes that well i cant get the missus out of it as she claimed it for hersif you need any more info pm me as i dont get on here much or call mick 0415156693
cheers
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 8:25 pm
by V8Patrol
Added to the MQ Bible
Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 11:25 pm
by Hoppy11
A solution has been found, on the weekend i checked out an l28 MK that had been smaked in the passenger front corner, $800 bucks later it was mine, it only had 168000 on it (the old man owned from new, sold it to a young bloke, 2 weeks later , el smacko), comes with all the parts I need, divorced transfercase, bashplate, small propshaft, front and back propshafts, handbrake cable, and power steering, should be able to flog the engine easy enough too.
Thanks for all your advice
Hoppy