Outer Limits 4x4 Board

Hi,

(..Don't get over this way very often these days....looks like everyones' still around though....)

Do any of you (..in Oz..) know of any recent 101" 1-tonners being brought in (in last 6 months or so) from UK.....or know of anyone who might know...??

...Just curiously 'testing' how small the world might be here...

Not too many in oz, i would like an ex ambualnce 101 for a camper fitted with an isuzu 3.9 turbo though

Saw a gun tractor at Roseville bridge Sydney in what looked like British army Livery yesterday. Have never seen it before.
Needed a double take!!!
Regards Philip A

Try Anthony Johnson - (03) 9729 9943

He does a lot of importing, but I dont think he has imported any Recently.

If anyone else has, he will probably know.

Dave.

Hi Nick, how's life?

I've only ever seen 3 in oz and was told by the owner of each one that they were evaluation vehicles for the OZ army. The army decided to go with unimogs instead though.

i thought there were about 10 brought in by the army just for woomera ?
from memory this was on the remlr site.

saw 1 around sandringham melb a few months back. soft top
saw 1 around leongatha not long ago. hard top
and there was one living in east bentleigh around 5+ years ago. hard top


when i get some $$$ 101FC is on the shopping list

Anthony at one stage had about 13 at his house - this was about 5 or so years ago, so there are many more than that.

He sells them around the country.

Dave

whats the going price for a 101fc is original nic ?

also any 1 ton 109's around in oz? next best thing

I have seen at least 4 at the vic landrover club run 4x4 show at Wandin, also saw an ex gulf war 101 for sale on the l/r club forum - www.lrocv.com.au.

there are 2 on the gold coast, one is running some big ass michelin's(yes bigger than the stock 900-16) i think xms type. last time i saw one for sale in just 4x4 it was $16,000.

This one was advertised last week..
At http://members.boardhost.com/blumx/
3. Land Rover 101 forward control. Rebuilt P76 engine, rebuilt gearbox,
double-cardan driveshaft, new Michelin tyres all round, air conditioner,
stretched chassis, ideal mobile home conversion, drives great. $15,000
......
If any one is interested, please call me on 0408 106 422.

There were a few at the Vic 4x4 show last year


Tim

One on the gold coast QLD/NSW border is a prawn fisherman, a couple of years ago i talked to him, from memory he was running very wide and slightly taller tires than 900's.
I heard the army had 20 or so 101's.

Here's some pics of ours...

One-&-a-Half Tonners...!! (...What you get when they're 'half-price..!!)

..& after we fitted new GoodYears (12.50x 18)....these are around 36" tall but are well suited to the gearing..

(..The engine..24v V8..is currently dead & going to be replaced with a Perkins 3.8)

...Thanks for all the replies to my earlier query...

I knew there were'nt many in Oz.....Theres also someone around Melbourne with a souped up one.....does daft things like drag-racing it, tyre-burnout demos....he was in a custom car mag I saw from UK where someone had been down-under for a car rally, & saw it in action..

We sold two of ours last year....
One was an ambulance....but it was a very scruffy non-runner, & the other (known as 'The Bomb'..) was equally scruffy but 'worked' & drove..

I sold them to a L/R enthusiast who was down here on a Navy ship & he took them back to UK along with another two he got from the guy whose 'Mog I posted up back in the Roadless thread last year...


Anyway...they've been sold on to the resto-movement over there, which is more than would have happened to them here...I no longer have the time to do the necesary work with the machines I've salvaged, & we needed their shed-space to house the Reynolds-Boughton Dodge 50 we now have..

But the guy has been back in touch & tells me that the bloke he sold the 'Bomb' to, has sold it on yet again, & its supposed to be heading your way...if its not there already...
Some well-travelled truck that'll be....& he'll have his work cut out when he gets it there...! (The engine self-started, ran fine, all cogs worked, so did steering, springs & taillights......but Nothing else did....incl. difflock..!

We had it with no top at all .(..thats it on the trailer in pic.)..but it was a real hoot to drive like that, & it was sad having to part with it. We used to get around the difflock problem by charging it at anything soft-going...!

WE still have some, all 24v models from same LHD batch contract for Rapier Squadron, which were aquired for spares, plus we still gather up anything lying around that came off one, (about 40 came down here, & some got over to Chile..), but we have only used the best one mainly, for last 9 years..
We have most of the components saved up to sometime build a 129" from 101" parts...including the truckcab assembly...again time is the problem.....but it would be a more 0ff-roadable alternative to the Dodge.

(...which we now know was one of two 'specials', & we are in touch with the owner of the 'sister'-vehicle'...)

Thanks Dave for Anthony J's no....I will enquire...

You always have lots of interesting stories Nick, great to read.

Hijack ON

I have always wondered how you can make hay in such a damp climate without it rotting - care to enlighten us - I keep seeing the German farmers making hay in similar conditions and can't help wondering.

Nick,
I remember you saying something about building a 129 replica before. I'm sure a lot of folks would love to see how it turned out if you did. What were you thinking - Series LR truck cab mid mounted on the 101 chassis? Would you stretch the wheelbase, and what would you do for front end bodywork?

Oh, and I've always wanted to ask - how similar are the RB/Dodge axles to the 101?


Seamus.

Hi again..

Ben, the weather here is'nt always as diabolical as the media would have you beleive....it just pisses down every time a reporter or cameraman gets off the airplane...

But the global warming affects us too & we are getting some weird seasonal changes, which makes it more difficult for weather-dependent tasks like shearing...& haymaking..but we do get good spells & you can do it OK then...

We buy our hay in (..let someone else have the greif of actually making it), & that there on the trailer is some of my cousins best Yorkshire Fog..!!
(..Sheep love it...!!)

Daft really...He sort of farms 'next door' to us...across a narrow neck of a tidal waterway....the paddock that came from is about 2 & 1/2-3 miles from our house...
You have to drive about 75 miles to get to it...right around the waterway...talk about how to waste a day...!! ( There's another bale in the truck too..)


Seamus
Re. the 129" idea, yes you're absolutely right, the 101" chassis is standardwidth also, & allows a truck cab from a Series model to sit straight on....with appropriate outriggers etc.
The chassis was going to be acheived with two being cut.. (long front half & long rear half )..& only have one joint, then add extra X-members from Series chassis, & an extra 2" to overall depth with channel steel to replicate correct chassis profile of the 129". ( They are intended to be a non-twist frame....springs do the work..)

The cab we have came from a 6-cyl fire engine (complete with tropical roof twin-skin as fitted to 'Lofty' at Dunsfold) & as it was a '6, it has the extra bulkhead recess for cramming in a BIG donk....
Frontend bodywork was causing some headscratching.....I now have a 'cunning plan' for fender replication.....but they won't be by any means absolutely identical.....The bonnet, I was going to cheat & taper a 110 roof ( one with the ribs inside..) to get as close to curvature as possible...

Engine...1000T series Perkins...have to be...!! ( No turbo lag...it works from idle ...'4 or '6....would depend on ££s & opportunity..!) We have 101" gearboxes, & series fuel tanks would suffice with 101" filler ncks welded on.

The Dodge axles....well the back one is a stranger to me.... but I guess its whatever came under 2wd 50-Series Dodge/Karrier vehicles normally.

The front is a good ol' Dana 60 with Reynolds Boughton tubes & swivels/hub assembly.....so the diff casing is near-as identical to a 101".
But theres a heavier pinion shaft sticking out, & I have to confess I have'nt asked anyone about the ratio within....!! Books for these things are the proverbial rocking-horse pooh...

( I'm corresponding with fellow owners on the Dodge 50 website, so I'll ask there...)

Regards

Nick

Thanks for the info Nick. So I take it you farm sheep? for wool or meat? Over here in Germany, lamb is one of the most expensive meats, and it all comes from New Zealand - OZ lamb is of course much better and very cheap (in OZ).

The 129" project sounds interesting.

Yep, thanks Nick - the good thing about your 129" is I imagine you'll be able to put it to good use if and when it gets built.

Jeez, I wish I had a Perkins 1000 series in my landy!

Seamus.

Yes Ben, its pretty much all sheep only down here, mostly wool, (but a fledgling meat industry commencing...)

We actually have Tasmanian 'Cormo's ourselves....

(..Some pics for Seamus ..!)

....Just an extra one..

Many thanks Nick, that shed of yours is like a goldmine to a landy enthusiast!

Hope you get the 129" on the road at some point.

Cheers,
Seamus.

Nick, I was wondering what you plan to do for the gear linkage - I know the factory 129s had no transmission tunnel within the cab, being mounted so high - and a very long gearstick as a result. Thinking about it there is more potential for proper three man bench seating in the 129 cabs if you were able to mount the linkage out of the way.

Seamus.

..To be quite honest....that was on the 'suck-it-&-see' list...!!

I had a chance to crawl all around & over 'Lofty' (or 'Fourtanks') as the Dunsfold 129" is known, at the Sept '03 w/end....got all the measurements & photos.....& I rather liked that flat floor...

There's a Turner 'box under there...v.similar to one in our Dodge..

But the 4 spd rangie box only looks like it has a huge 'throw' at the gearlever selectors......you work a vertical lever in one & its no more than a Series 2 box...

This Perk Hi-Cap has a R/R box behind it, mounted right back to take the bellhousing, & the gearlever is right in front of the centre squab, & kinked to the driver, then up & back a bit.....it has about as much travel as the original would have had...& nothing like a R/R angle...

The way the lever linkage works on a 101" (with same 'box) on the other hand is HUGE.....but if it was'nt , you'd never get enough crank to work it.

to my knowledge Aust had 50 odd delivered as weapon carriers for wommera

Anthony johnson seems to know.