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SAS conversion ideas.....

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 6:57 pm
by Miyagi
well pencil has been put to paper and have a few ideas.
Any feedback would be muchly appreciated.

plans as follows

hilux 4.88 front dif kept origional
range rover transfer case w/divorce setup (other side of gear box)

what do you think?

Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 10:16 am
by Bitsamissin
I think it will end up costing a shit load more than if you reversed the Hilux diff housing.
A diff housing reversal will cost around $500. The mods required for your front shaft are only worth $200 or so if you use a high pinion Bundera/80 Series Cruiser diff centre.
The problem with using a right hand drop pumpkin is the exhaust you would need a custom set of headers to change the outlet pipe to the left hand side this will cost $$$$$
Also there is no way known I would use a Rover divorced t/case I just could never trust it.
A better option (if you went this way) would be a MK Patrol divorced case which are quite strong but there are no low range gears available (standard ratio is 2.2:1).
But you have to sort out the mounts etc and thats gonna cost.
I still believe the housing reversal is the cheapest way to go.
The other option is a left hand drop D-44 from a early 80's Jeep Wagoneer but these are low pinion and you will probably need a double cardan front shaft due to the extra angle.

Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 4:48 pm
by GURU
Bitsamissin wrote:IAlso there is no way known I would use a Rover divorced t/case I just could never trust it.

A better option (if you went this way) would be a MK Patrol divorced case which are quite strong but there are no low range gears available (standard ratio is 2.2:1).
The Rover transfer is one of the strongest around, rover can't make diff's for shiat but there TC are one of the best. add to that they actually have a "low range" 3.32:1 STANDARD...there are 4.9 and now 5.95 sets available aftermarket.
Bitsamissin wrote:But you have to sort out the mounts etc and thats gonna cost.
I still believe the housing reversal is the cheapest way to go.
The other option is a left hand drop D-44 from a early 80's Jeep Wagoneer but these are low pinion and you will probably need a double cardan front shaft due to the extra angle.
Cost cost cost....it's all about who you know not what you know ;)

Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 5:26 pm
by Bitsamissin
Hmmmm still not convinced about the Rover cases, Paj Challenge 2 yrs ago 2 crapped themselves and I've been out with another 2 that have died. Maybe they were old and had seen better days. But as you said they do have good ratio's especially the high range 1.2:1 or whatever it is.
I still believe that due to the room available keeping it simple will be the cheapest & easiest way to go whether you do it yourself or pay someone to do it.
If it was an auto I would say go the NP231 as it is a virtual bolt on to the Paj auto (just needs output shaft shortened by a few mm) this could be mated to a D-44 left hand drop axle or reversed Lux axle (cheap & plentiful parts). Also 4:1 gears are available for it.

Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 8:40 pm
by J Top
Hi Guys
back from the land of big tyres and barred windows and doors.
I was thinking a 3.8 commo to a hilux box and trans to a standard hilux diff.
Exhaust probs can usually be overcome with time and thought.
J Top

Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 10:56 pm
by GURU
don't get me wrong. a SAS is going to be a good thing no matter which way the up the diff is.

BUT, if your going to SAS I assume your wanting to drive harder stuff so 40:1 gearing isn't going to be much chop turning 35's......

No mater what you do, wether you use a hilux, landcruiser and Rover transfer the oppotunities these open up is huge... 3.32, 4.7 4.9 5.95 .... now your starting to talk 70:1 - 80:1....and thats crawling