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Miniture Buggy's

Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2005 5:31 pm
by small talk
Just wanted to know if anyone has built a mini buggy? kid sized. super compact! Maybe a bit dangerous for kids but small adults would have a ball :D
What i was thinking:

* either swb sierra chassis or custom built
* SPOA super flat springs
* sierra NT or WT diffs which ever is cheapest at the time
* running 30's 31's on flipped rims
* welded front and rear diffs

Now what i want to know is how small can this be, whats the shortest setup:
* 1L engine 4speed Gbox 1L transfer
* 1.3L enigne 5speed gbox 1.3l transfer
* or a combination of any
The reason for short chassis lenght is because it would be running 30-31's due to its rather weak diffs.
Also how narrow can the chassis rails be in regards to the steering??

Brock.

Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2005 5:50 pm
by small talk
Also with the mounting of the engine Gbox and X-fer so far forward out of reach of driver just make short shifters and leave it in 1st and low 4, has anyone done this or seen somthing like it done??

Brock.

Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2005 6:05 pm
by sierrajim
A guy on pirate did a similar thing. Think he used a smaller than normal engine, maybe a motorbike engine. Basically a 4wd go cart.

Why not buy a rusted out 1.0ltr Sierra and toobe it.

Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2005 7:09 pm
by small talk
Yeah thats probably the best idea, Just a tiny thing running tyres that wont require larger difs or gearing, then minimise everything possible, is it possible to shorten the shaft between the gearbox and the X-fer?? purly offroad so it doesnt have to drive at speeds. Got a link to the one on pirate??

Brock.

Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2005 7:53 pm
by CHOPZUKI

Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2005 7:54 pm
by CHOPZUKI

Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2005 9:20 pm
by ranover
sick :twisted:

was thinkin the same thing my son is 10 months old but would love to make sothing for him like that when he gets bigger. thought of makin a mini mini buggy for when hes 2. using a electric motor.

anyway sick idea

Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2005 9:22 pm
by small talk
Thats cool wish someone would just do it all for me too :D could be a new craze like the pit bikes these are pit buggy's. ill be looking to start somthing like this after ive got mine on the road.

Brock.

Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2005 9:28 pm
by ranover
yeah

for sure they made those mini hot rods as well. do you know how they made them what motor they used

would be sick to have full diffs locked roll cage would be envy of all the kids on the block. better then those shitty plastic electric cars

dan

Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2005 9:41 pm
by Zookified
It would drive straight over the top of the plastic cars, monster truck style :rofl:

Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 2:45 pm
by N*A*M
project 'yes dear' is also very cool

Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 7:07 pm
by Beastmavster
Thats pretty cool but that's far too much weight for a little Honda 300cc engine to push. The weight of those diffs would be more than a whole duadbike.

No reason why the old oddysey style rollcage couldnt be combined with a 4wd quadbike setup though.

I dunno about you guys but a 4x4 type setup with one of these should keep using ATV tyres but just go bigger.

http://www.yamaha-motor.com/sport/produ ... specs.aspx

Stock ground clearance on a Wolverine 350/450 is 8.7" or 220mm - roughly the same ground clearance as a patrol anyway on 23" tyres.

You can get ATV Super Swamper :cool: Vampires up to 28" so that's about 285mm clearance.

That should be plenty of fun for the kids - and the adults too.

Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 7:13 pm
by Beastmavster
Here's a couple of the aussie spec ones.

750cc in an ATV.... wooohoooo!

Of course a 350cc workhorse thats an ex council thing should be heaps of power for the kids.

http://www.kawasaki.com.au/au/all_produ ... 0/main.htm

http://www.kawasaki.com.au/au/all_produ ... 0/main.htm

http://www.hondamotorcycles.com.au/moto ... +fa+05.htm

Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 7:17 pm
by Beastmavster
http://www.yamaha-motor.com.au/motor/in ... ?motor.asp

Mmmm.... difflock and front LSD + 275mm ground clearance? Tasty...

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• Electric starting with recoil backup
• “On-Commandâ€

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 8:45 am
by droopypete
ranover wrote:sick :twisted:

was thinkin the same thing my son is 10 months old but would love to make sothing for him like that when he gets bigger. thought of makin a mini mini buggy for when hes 2. using a electric motor.

anyway sick idea
We won't have any fuel left by then :cry:
you will be buying a flux capacitor kit from Jaycar and building him a anti gravity hover-crawler :cool:

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 10:44 am
by N*A*M
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=349757

mq diffs should be ok for this as well i'd imagine

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 10:45 am
by Hekta
Here's a build up thread from Pirate. This guys is building a little jeep for his 7 yr old. :cool:

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=376565

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 2:51 pm
by ranover
seen that one on pirate thats going to be extreme. i was thinkin half scale crawler have to put my thinkin cap on for this one. if i had the cash i would get a 4by and miniture all the bits (tell me im dreamin).

but the atv idea sounds good all set up just build the body and away he goes this is going to be fun

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 4:54 pm
by flyinwall
now i know what to do with my left over 1lt gear (motor g/box diffs) now has anyone got a spare t/case

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 5:30 pm
by Mungrel Breed
i woz thinkn of a 2strke suzi wit a 1500 goldwing or simla sumthin wit shaft drive&reverse. then its an ezi jack shaft convert to xcase

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 6:20 pm
by flyinwall
you might want to check this custom miniture buggie out
http://monstermadness.ipbhost.com/index ... wtopic=265

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 7:15 pm
by droopypete
flyinwall wrote:you might want to check this custom miniture buggie out
http://monstermadness.ipbhost.com/index ... wtopic=265
Wow.

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 8:09 pm
by ranover
droopypete wrote:
flyinwall wrote:you might want to check this custom miniture buggie out
http://monstermadness.ipbhost.com/index ... wtopic=265
Wow.
now thats sweet.

i guess i could cut the diffs of a zook or something down and play with the rest.

sorry i know ive hijacked this post

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 10:05 pm
by flyinwall
its not bad when you consider that he has built the entire thing from scratch right down to the diffs and diff gears
here is a supercharger that he has also built
http://home.hetnet.nl/~cyril-wichers/im ... -int-2.jpg

and here is what the supercharger sits on
http://home.wanadoo.nl/harry.vink/foto/ ... %20020.jpg