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Ok here is the story, some very interesting imfo from Daniel :-

Hi Frank,

Always good to hear from you.
We are actually looking into the Paj rear 9.5" quite seriously lately.
That being said, I still can't say it is on "the list" yet, but it's looking more attractive all the time.

Just for your info, here is what we've learned as of late:

1 - The Paj NL type 3.5 litre diff is virtually identical to the NM IRS type diff (NOTE: I only have somebody else's NM measurements to go by - I don't have one to check for myself) except for the fact that the NL has 31 spline shafts and the NM has 33 spline shafts. Could be a noteworthy axle shaft strength upgrade for the NL guys like yourself if you can get somebody to make up some 33 spline shafts.

2 - The Hyundai Terracan ALSO shares the exact same diff as the NL (we did measure the 2 of them up) with the exception that it has 34 spline shafts. (maybe a direct swap-over axle shaft upgrade for the NL?)

3 - The Terracan also shares the same front IFS diff as the NL/NM except it has larger diameter ring gear bolts. We will be issuing a tech brief on drilling out an RD110 to suit. That probably doesn't help you out much, but who knows? There might be a preferable ratio in a Terracan or something that the Mitsu guys would be interested in playing with.

4 - The NL/NM diffs share the same ring gear inside diameter and ring gear bolt pitch circle diameter and number of bolts as the RD46 (3.0 Litre large Mitsu rear) . The only problem is that the inside diameter of the bearings on the NL/NM is 55mm as opposed to the 45mm RD46 bearing journal, and the ring gear bolts are 12mm compared to the RD46 10mm bolts. This therefore opens up possibilities of guys like yourself jumping the gun on ARB committing to build the 3.5 Litre rear and either sleeving the bearing journals or finding a substitute bearing that will adapt an RD46 to an NL. Then you could just get Mark Hardman to wire cut you a custom pair of side gears according to a spline profile that I can generate for him. (Mark and I do this for Tough Truck guys fairly regularly)

That's all I have for now.
If you or anybody you know ever bends or shatters a 31 spline shaft, could you save me the diff spline?
I don't have a 31 spline shaft sample yet, and your diff side gears showed it to be a fairly non-standard profile.

Cheerz,

daniel

I've got a 3.5 V6 axle from an NL I'll give to Daniel to help the cause but what they really need is a rear NM/NP diff centre to play with.
C'mon guys if you want these things to happen we have to help things along (I can't do everything myself).
Can anyone get hold of one of these or at least find a cheap one and a few of us chip in for the cause ?

Frank.

Frank,

Very interesting & the outcome actually does show that they are sussing it out.

I dont expect someone to have a spare NM diff lying around, so it may be that we have to all chip in towards aone from a wrecker.

Lets see how serious people are??


cheers

Yeah ,forgot about the Terrican being 2nd gen Paj running gear but 35 spline.Why didn't they just keep the whole lot standard Paj. Willing to donate money for the cause...Frank I will be at the meeting on Wed for the Paj club ,if you wan't some dollars yell out.
Dave

Frank, I came across a NM LSD diff $850.00 I wanted to put in the NP and try and to slow the need for the traction control to work but it was a steep for me to see if it would work or not it is still available in Brizy

Marty

I'm sure I could do lots better than $850 but I'm unsure on weights and freight costs
J Top

Hey Frank,

Freighting a diff centre to Melb is going to cost at least $150 & thats only from Canberra!.

Any chance if we get enough guys in on this that you could source one locally.

I'd be willing to chip in say around $100.

Lets get a list of all people willing to put in some $$. Remember guys nothing happens here unless we help to make it happen & as with the front locker at least ARB have shown some support to us Pajerians.

So hand up!!!!!!!!

Ok guys I rang around this morning and have found one here for $400 out of an lsd NP 3.2DiD just before the traction control was available.
I'll buy it but looking for 3 other guys to chip in $100 Ea for the cause.

Frank.

Ok so I;m in

let me know how to get the money to you

If you PM me your bank acc details & I can tranfer over the internet

cheers

I'll donate....hang on , thats about 3 slabs "OH MY GAWD"

Let me know how to get it to you.
Dave

Ok guys what hapened to this idea, anyone Frank???

Yeah I've been very busy lately so I'll PM you both to get this happening.

hey frank and ian,

since i now have an NM too ...ill chip in $100 to the cause

If this is still going along - then count me in for a contribution...

If it isn't happening and that LSD is sitting on a shelf somewhere then I will buy it off you..