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just wanting to know how long shocks should be for a 4'' lift on GQ, i'm making spring retainers so they can be longer than standard, but interested in what the measurements they should be

I'm after the same question as well,. i run a 4 inch lift and my shocks top out before i can fully flex!

I got the longest rancho's available at the time that didnt need adaptors.

I think the rear was 33" and 28" front.


Steve

mine are doing the same, running out of travel way to early, the mob i bought the kit from, did send me the wrong shocks, but even the shocks he's wants to send me still sound to short, so what he wants me to do is let him know how long i want them and he will swap them over, at full extension there 655mm and are only 30mm longer than the ones i took out, and the ones he wants to send me are only 677mm full extened

is that 677mm extended figure for the rear yeh?

yeah mate, thats the shocks he wants to send me, 677mm extended

The shocks I put on my 4" lift are 555/322 front and 716/426 on the rear.

I never really looked to see how much longer than needed they were - just threw them on...haven't had any problems at all.

thats cool, the bloke wants to know how long the extended measurement needs to be, and what the compressed measurement i want

Every spring and shock supplier is different so to get the best fit measure it up with the springs in and tyres on for extended and compression and order the length you need from your shocky surplier and they will find the closest match they can.

Cris

ludacris wrote:Every spring and shock supplier is different so to get the best fit measure it up with the springs in and tyres on for extended and compression and order the length you need from your shocky surplier and they will find the closest match they can.

Cris

yup, there is no "CORRECT" or definate answer.. every setup is different.

bucketofbolts wrote:thats cool, the bloke wants to know how long the extended measurement needs to be, and what the compressed measurement i want

Try ramping it and see what happens with no shocks fitted this will give max flex of springs.
I need to do this on the rear as with the current springs I have I can still get the bumpstops to hit. But the spring is still firm in the seat so I know it can take more droop.

If flexing on a ramp is abit unstable try finding a spot where you can get it full crossed up. With the shocks disconnected. Then measure the distance between the mounting points.

my new ones are ..... damn I forgot.... about 750mm extended I think.

i took some more measurements today, 650mm fully extended, 470 compressed,won't compressed up any higher, im going to drop the shocks off and see how far it will go before the spring starts to get lose, i mainly wanted some idea what measurements other people where using

i have just got my new shocks, 760mm full extension and 430 compressed, should do the job, havn't run it up on the ramp yet, but should be good,

what make did you get?

rancho, i think. he sent them over without stickers, i dont really care as long as they do the job

here's a pic of the longer shocks i got, 4'' longer, 760mm fully extended and 435mm compressed, should be heaps now

How about measurements for the front?

Jason

yeah, havn't really done anything with the front yet, apart from the shocks supplied with the kit, just trying to get the rear sorted out first. the front doesn't work that well at the best of times, not unless you spend big bucks, its not to bad though. will post up some pics soon of it up a ramp and show you how much flex it has, front and rear, this was before i fitted the longer shocks, (ignore the ramp, i colored it in so people wouldn't winge about safety)

lol. Is your front wheel on top of a bird bath? Nar looking good in that pic.

I wanna know what the wheels on too

na, a couple car ramps with timber blocks under them, will post more pics when i run it back up the ramp with the longer shocks,

Here's the specs for my Maverick SWB. note that LWB could be different.

Feel free to use them for the bible... in fact it'd be great so I dont lose them.

PS I only grabbed one h

Lengths for shocks (expanded/compressed):

Standard:

Front KYB 56110 01J00 325mm compressed / 517mm expanded
Rear KYB 56210 01J00 385mm compressed / 615mm expanded

EFS standard 2"

Front: EFS 36-5592 383mm compressed / 600mm expanded
Rear: EFS xx-xxxx 410mm compressed / 660mm expanded
(didnt record it)

Rear Xtra Long:
EFS 36-5549 didnt record but believe 715-745mm expanded. Can measure some day..... some day

From memory the same front shock is specified for 3" lift (considering the 83mm extended lenght that's ok). I think the extra long rears are basically the same length as 4" lift.

Rear spring: free length 455mm tall 16mm thick. 7 1/2 turns.

Front spring: free length 400mm tall 15mm thick. 6 1/2 turns.

note this is from a 88 SWB XLT maverick with 200,000+ Kms. may not be completely representative.

thanks for that, my rear shocks are 760mm extended and 435mm compressed, sounds about right

For those looking for more shock lengths for a 4" lift.

http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/PHP_Modul ... highlight=

Im using ridepro comp shocks, rear 740ishmm extended, 435mm closed, fronts 655mm washer step to washer step open, 450mm ish closed.

Around $160ish ea, for 4-6" lift, but may need springs to be held captive, if not ridepro springs, I have found with mine.