Outer Limits 4x4 Board

Ive been on the phone to AllPro Offroad in the US of A in regards to a hi steer kit for my lux, but they wont make any right hand drive arms as they dont have the market for it (der). Just wondering if there is anyone else on here that is keen for hi steer ASAP so that we may be able to get enough interest for them to make some RHD arms

pm me for more details

Craig

Why don't you talk to ARB or some other Aus outfit? Seems more sensible.

Its actually also alot more $$$ to get a Hi Steer kit in Oz. Even with a kit freighted from the states, (plus all the other bits n pieces that I'll be buying) I will be saving over $500.

boss trucks import some offroad racing stuff maybe worth talking to

If you want to get a kit from the US i wouldnt be hasseling AllPro. I would be going for one of the other companies that are making arms. Sky Manufacturing do a good arm and i know they have made RH drive kits in the past. Or Marlin. Both of these companies are more likely to make a one off or a small run.

Tony, i tried Sky and they say they wont do any RHD arms right now as the have too many LHD arms still in stock. Said they'll do a run of RHD arms for me when they need a new run of LHD arms for themselves. Might have to try marlin or wait a bit i think.

4x4 Labs has done RHD steering arms for a few Japanese import MWB cruisers. Luke, the owner, has designed a steering arm that places the tie rod behind the diff:



If you are keen on importing steering arms from the US, his website is http://www.4x4labs.com/products/steeringarms.html

Dave

diesel028 wrote:Tony, i tried Sky and they say they wont do any RHD arms right now as the have too many LHD arms still in stock. Said they'll do a run of RHD arms for me when they need a new run of LHD arms for themselves. Might have to try marlin or wait a bit i think.

Have you spoken to Sky directly yet craig? I got a quote for dilivery to my door for 3-5 days on the $210 arms and when I ask for production times and account details to pre-pay I get nothing back. I've been talking to whiteknight from here in PM and he tried ringing sky on the weekend but they weren't open. He received an email from them last week telling him to ring them about it.

Anyway Whiteknight and I are definately in. (provided whoever is used the prices are cheaper than aus sourced ones. The sky ones worked out at less than $400AUD to my doorstep.) Also when I posted about interest a few weeks back Basketcase and Yarno said they were interested too. Maybe PM those two guys. If these last two are still keen that makes it 5 sets.

EDIT: Forgot to mention. I spoke to Chris Geiger from Marlin and he said they will not do right hand drive arms. It didn't seem open to discussion.

Checked out the LAB site and found the paragraph below. They aren't billet but they do mount the tierod behind the diff. They are a bit over $100AUD more than the Sky arms which makes them just under $500AUD dilivered to Brisbane (provided they shipping is similar to the sky arms and they dont charge extra for the RHD privilege). Also the TRE options are

Chevy 1-Ton ends
High angle Chevy 1-Ton Drag Link Ends
Spherical Rod Ends

Are any of there relatively easy to source in australia?

LAB4x4 wrote:4x4labs Ackerman steering arms are available for early and late model cruisers, Toyota trucks and 4runners with straight axles, right hand drive vehicles, small knuckle pattern, and spring under cruisers with a 3" or higher spring lift.

Also just out f interest I'll post the explanation of what the "Ackerman" part is. Its better explained here -http://www.4x4labs.com/products/better- ... garms.html - Reading the info in that link though the ackerman angles are set for specific track widths and spring pack thicknesses so as soona s you alt4er these it throws the ackerman stuff out the door anyway.

LAB4x4 wrote:The Ackerman Steering Principle defines the geometry that is applied to all vehicles (two or four wheel drive) to enable the correct turning angle of the steering wheels to be generated when negotiating a corner or a curve. If both the wheels were turned by the same amount, the inside wheel would scrub (effectively sliding sideways) and lessen the effectiveness of the steering and traction. This problem can be eliminated by turning the inside wheel at a greater angle than the outside one. Aligning both wheels in the proper direction of travel creates consistent steering without undue wear and loss of traction in either of the tires.

Just FYI 4x4labs also can make conventional high mount steering arms with tie rods in front of the diff. Their steering arms are also available with 80 series tie rod ends. Just ask, if several of you are willing to make a group buy that would save $$ on the shipping costs.

Dave

Hybrid wrote:

diesel028 wrote:Tony, i tried Sky and they say they wont do any RHD arms right now as the have too many LHD arms still in stock. Said they'll do a run of RHD arms for me when they need a new run of LHD arms for themselves. Might have to try marlin or wait a bit i think.

Have you spoken to Sky directly yet craig? I got a quote for dilivery to my door for 3-5 days on the $210 arms and when I ask for production times and account details to pre-pay I get nothing back. I've been talking to whiteknight from here in PM and he tried ringing sky on the weekend but they weren't open. He received an email from them last week telling him to ring them about it.

Anyway Whiteknight and I are definately in. (provided whoever is used the prices are cheaper than aus sourced ones. The sky ones worked out at less than $400AUD to my doorstep.) Also when I posted about interest a few weeks back Basketcase and Yarno said they were interested too. Maybe PM those two guys. If these last two are still keen that makes it 5 sets.

EDIT: Forgot to mention. I spoke to Chris Geiger from Marlin and he said they will not do right hand drive arms. It didn't seem open to discussion.

Did you ring Marlin John? Coz i was going to ring them 2moro morning, but I might try ringing Sky instead and getting a definite answer on time til they can make some RHD arms.

Craig

my arms cost me $340 aus landed and i got them from sky about a year ago. look at his trading times, he is very hard to get hold of and you need to ring either 30 mins after opening or before closing to get him. mine are rhd and setup for the axle to be 5.5 inch forward of standard.


NICK

diesel028 wrote:

Hybrid wrote:

diesel028 wrote:Tony, i tried Sky and they say they wont do any RHD arms right now as the have too many LHD arms still in stock. Said they'll do a run of RHD arms for me when they need a new run of LHD arms for themselves. Might have to try marlin or wait a bit i think.

Have you spoken to Sky directly yet craig? I got a quote for dilivery to my door for 3-5 days on the $210 arms and when I ask for production times and account details to pre-pay I get nothing back. I've been talking to whiteknight from here in PM and he tried ringing sky on the weekend but they weren't open. He received an email from them last week telling him to ring them about it.

Anyway Whiteknight and I are definately in. (provided whoever is used the prices are cheaper than aus sourced ones. The sky ones worked out at less than $400AUD to my doorstep.) Also when I posted about interest a few weeks back Basketcase and Yarno said they were interested too. Maybe PM those two guys. If these last two are still keen that makes it 5 sets.

EDIT: Forgot to mention. I spoke to Chris Geiger from Marlin and he said they will not do right hand drive arms. It didn't seem open to discussion.

Did you ring Marlin John? Coz i was going to ring them 2moro morning, but I might try ringing Sky instead and getting a definite answer on time til they can make some RHD arms.

Craig

I talked to him over PM. He has helped me out a few times. He's a nice felah and always helpful but it was a definate no on the RHD arms.

I rang SKY this morning although there was no-one there at the time that could answer my questions..

Will wait to see how Craig goes, but i am definatley in for a set if they get organised and the price doesn't alter..

The E-mail they sent me indicated that they were definately going to run a batch it was just call them to find out more info..

Fingers crossed !

whiteknight wrote:I rang SKY this morning although there was no-one there at the time that could answer my questions..

Will wait to see how Craig goes, but i am definatley in for a set if they get organised and the price doesn't alter..

The E-mail they sent me indicated that they were definately going to run a batch it was just call them to find out more info..

Fingers crossed !

I got the same response, can certainly make them, just a matter of when? Hopefully ill find out in the morning.

OK, just got off the phone to Sky manufacturing. He said it will be about a month til they do some RHD arms. He has interest from 5-6 people for RHD arms (im assuming that myself, Hybrid and whiteknight are in that group). He will be making ten sets, so if there is any one else interested, let me know via PM. He will be emaling all the people that have contacted him in regards to making some RHD arms, when he is ready to make them.

Shipping for a whole Hi steer kit is around $160 USD (Priority - 4-6 days), or, $70 USD (economy - 4-6 weeks). Im also assuming that if you were to buy just the arms, shipping would be cheaper.

The arms are $210 USD a pair.
The whole kit is $429 USD.


Here is their website for anyone else interested.

http://www.sky-manufacturing.com/


Craig

I called SKY as well this morning...

I was told 2-3 weeks and to send an email to go into the queue for when they are available.

$429 for the complete Highsteer Kit
$100 for the pitman arm
$160 shipping

This works out to to be around $900 including shipping..

Hehe, if I email this poor guy again I reckon he'll deny me any out of principal. I've been waiting for a restraining order to come through.

beanz2 wrote:Just FYI 4x4labs also can make conventional high mount steering arms with tie rods in front of the diff. Their steering arms are also available with 80 series tie rod ends. Just ask, if several of you are willing to make a group buy that would save $$ on the shipping costs.

Dave

we have RHD arms in stock. I sell them all over the world. they are indeed billet steel and available in regular forward facing configuration if you can't get the tie rod behind the axle for some reason.

-luke@4x4labs

Email from 4x4 labs..

for arms only- we give a shop discount on 5 or more sets at one time. (1-$300, 5-$1000) full kits- (chevy one ton TRE's) add $250.
we use sky pitman arms and put the large GM tapers into them, they are $125.

my forward facing arms use the stock landcruiser style drag link configuration where the drag link drops into a hole in the tie rod end.
if you're going to use fj80 TRE's you may have to taper the other way on the drag link hole when you flip the TRE to ride on top of the steering arm, or get a left hand drive part, then it would be correct.

the rear facing arms the trick setup if you have enough room under the oil pan for it.

talk to you later,
-luke@4x4labs

ok so what does that mean, is somebody going to get some in if so please pm me thanks

I am interested in just the arms from sky, the 4x4 labs one wont fit my setup (will hit sump), I'd also prefer to use 80s TREs.

Yarno wrote:I am interested in just the arms from sky, the 4x4 labs one wont fit my setup (will hit sump), I'd also prefer to use 80s TREs.

LABs make the normal forward facing arms too. But they work out to be $90USD more than the sky ones. The only diff I can see is that lukes arms take into account the ackermens principle which does help with steering and turning circle. I got a similar email response as whiteknight with this "if you're going to use fj80 TRE's you may have to taper the other way on the drag link hole when you flip the TRE to ride on top of the steering arm, or get a left hand drive part, then it would be correct." I can't really understand where he's coming from here. Is he just saying the TRE on the drag link would be upside down?

Got an email from Sky yesty. Should be end of next week that they start making the RHD arms.

I called them this morning and was told that they are ready to do a run but cant find a mill that will do them at present, he told me that there is no eta as until they find a mill they cant promise anything.

Aww wheres my love. I didn't get no stinking email. Good news though. At least they look like they are getting into it.

Craig, Paul

Any updates on the arms guy?

Nah Ive heard nothing since last week. Might email them again in the next few days.

Craig

Make sure to let us know what the go is. I find they dont reply to the email and instead call them but its working out a little expensive, and to make it worse they dont have any hold music :(

whiteknight wrote:Make sure to let us know what the go is. I find they dont reply to the email and instead call them but its working out a little expensive, and to make it worse they dont have any hold music :(

They have replied to all bar two of my emails, and that was when the guy I was talking to in regards to the kit (Andy) quit, so I just assumed they were trying to sift thru all their stuff and get to what they could. Ever since then I have had a reply within two days.