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Hi all

I have done the searches and read the threads, but is it hard to do a leaf over axle conversion. I went to a couple of suspension places in Mackay and they will not do it as it is ilegal in QLD, anyway what is needed.

I want this thing lifted and if I need to i will just go body and leaf lift.

pm matsmad, hes in the middle of doing this to his MQ and i think he has some spare bits. otherwise screwy is the man in the know about these machines............check his members thread.

mickyd555 wrote:otherwise screwy is the man in the know about these machines.

he didnt do his own SOA.... I did it ! .......

pics n DIY info @ ......

http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/PHP_Modul ... php?t=7890

do it. spoa mq's look sweet. its fairly easy to do just spring over. just get angles sweet and mq will be sweet. dont count on ori to make you hi steer. they arsed around for 6 months with me and i never got results.

Thanks for all the info. just need to find someone to give me hand and it will all be sweet.

Then the EFI 304, turbo 350 gear box and she should be on her way.

Also, who has cut there guards. I have a bit of rust around the wheel arches and have decided to cut about 1" all around the guard.

shanej wrote:Also, who has cut there guards. I have a bit of rust around the wheel arches and have decided to cut about 1" all around the guard.

I have.
http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/PHP_Modul ... c&start=60

Read your story last night, great job.

V8Patrol wrote:

mickyd555 wrote:otherwise screwy is the man in the know about these machines.

he didnt do his own SOA.... I did it ! .......

pics n DIY info @ ......

http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/PHP_Modul ... php?t=7890

Indeed you might have done it originally.....

but ive re done the front mounts, the rear mounts, the steering, brake lines, and all the shock mounts.....

so basically the only thing left on my rig that you have soley done without me fixing it up for my new conversions is that gearbox crossmember

i know how to SOA, and am more than capable to do such a conversion easily enough

shanej wrote:Hi all

I have done the searches and read the threads, but is it hard to do a leaf over axle conversion. I went to a couple of suspension places in Mackay and they will not do it as it is ilegal in QLD, anyway what is needed.

I want this thing lifted and if I need to i will just go body and leaf lift.

As im not interested in childish arguments about who did wat......

ill get back to your question.

SOA conversion is a relitevily straight forward conversion suspension wise..... if you can use an angle grinder, oxy and a welder with a tape mearsure and a set square the modification is easy enough to do if you know the tech behind it.

in the MQ bible in the Nissan section there are a few tech sections on SOA along with a few of the members rigs that have SOA information in them.

good luck and if you have any problems with your conversion feel free to drop me a PM.

cheers

Screwy

Screwy_ScrewBall wrote:Indeed you might have done it originally.....

but ive re done the front mounts, the rear mounts, the steering, brake lines, and all the shock mounts.....

So basically you've "rewelded" some minor stuff back onto the diffs... did these not work in the original setup ????? or was it because you changed your design after the work was done
So let me get this right ..... by changing minor things this means you've actually completed the entire thing or is it because youve done a few minor things this then counts for doing it ALL ..... gee I wish I could have done that at school, here ya are miss, 10 words on a bit of paper should get me that A+ for that 1000 word assignment ......
I think not !

Screwy_ScrewBall wrote:so basically the only thing left on my rig that you have soley done without me fixing it up for my new conversions is that gearbox crossmember

"fixing it up" again I assume you mean altering it after yet another change in plans.

Screwy_ScrewBall wrote:i know how to SOA, and am more than capable to do such a conversion easily enough

Now that would be something to see
You may well belive you understand the principles but I seriously doubt you have the skills required to do such a modification entirely on your own, after all to date you have done how many SOA's.....please refresh my memory

Screwy_ScrewBall wrote:As im not interested in childish arguments about who did wat......

Good ..... they why suggest I started one when I simply made a true statement ???......

he didn't do his own SOA.... I did it ! .......

I see nothing "childish" about that statement nor have any of the others that have PM'd me in regards to your "posts" with in this thread. I simply stated a fact...... YOU DIDN'T DO IT ...... & to date still haven't done an entire SOA on your own...... true or false ?

Screwy_ScrewBall wrote:SOA conversion is a relitevily straight forward conversion suspension wise..... if you can use an angle grinder, oxy and a welder with a tape mearsure and a set square the modification is easy enough to do if you know the tech behind it.

Still using that measuring stick that's 7mm short are you ?
What type of welding rods would you recommend and why ?
Do you understand the technique required when using those rods and can you explain it ?
What type of welder works the best, more importantly .... why?
set square ????? don't you mean bevel....
Perhaps if you had've supplied answers to some of the more intricate details of the process I might have a better chance of believing in your so-called "abilities" ...... Oh and while on the question of "welding" , how did you go on that welding course you were going to do..... bet ya didn't even go once .... yet you belive you are entitled to carry on as if your a qualified expert.

I'm quite sure you can manage to make two bits of steel stick together but I seriously doubt that longjetivity comes into your equations ( and yes I have pics of some of your "attempts" @ welding .... ) its somewhat like me claiming to be able to perform brain surgery, whilst I could log onto a medical site an read up all I would need to know and buy the "basic" tools, I'm quite sure there would be no volunteers on hand..... again proof is in the pudding sunshine..... please remind us all of the number of SOA's you've done entirely on your own to date ......

Screwy_ScrewBall wrote:in the MQ bible in the Nissan section there are a few tech sections on SOA along with a few of the members rigs that have SOA information in them.

AHHHHH the " __ * MQ / MK Bible * __ " compiled by V8Patrol.....why


so individuals could more easily find relevant subject material on their questions quicker and easier than sorting through thousands of largely pathetic posts by inexperienced or unknowlagable persons who think that because they have all the "understanding" of the basic theories involved in a particular matter, can qualify their bullshit to unsuspecting newcomers who know no different......



amaturer

woops, i think i started a bitch fight............


sorry V8patrol, i didnt relise it was you that did it.

I dunno, I remember the posts coming in when V8Patrol did the SOA and I think also a V8 conversion for Screwy, and at the time Screwy's attitude seemed a lot more grateful (as opposed to "me fixing it up" comments)!

But maybe I'm reading it wrong...

Jason

Who cares who did what? The post was to give shane some advice, not pay each other out. By the way shane, I now have a spare front n rear diff if u wanna have a go of it without puting ur car off the road too long. Just an idea.

In all honesty Kingy im really not trying to start yet another argument with you......

as matt said, this is an advice column for shane..... and the moment another used on here said " ask screwy " you bit the bullet and attacked me....... "

Indeed, when my vehicle was a SWB rig and like yours.... you did the SOA and the V8 on it.... i did pitch in and help but you the all the tech stuff. and indeed i was grateful.

My choise of modifications after your original SOA has led me to Modify the existing mounts and most of the working setup of the Spring Over.

I have more than enough ability to do the job....

but at the end of the day..... Why is it that i continuosly have to defend myself from your attacks when another user asks me for advice?

if you would prefer ill put in my sig line.... " from now on ask V8Patrol for all tech advice as i am unable to answer without having my head bitten off"

Now Kingy, you are a Moderator of 3 sections on this board. You are sposed to lead an example for users. there was a whole thread about attacking people on this board and if it happened they would board the ban bus.... I believe this was started when jeremy modded his buggy and poeple had a go at his work....

I cant understand why you feel the need to attack me in such a harsh way.... which all started just because mickey said " ask screwy ".........

I will not argue back at you, nor will i attack you. all im doing is trying to justify.... and once again id prefer if you kept your problems with my skills to a private level.... running me down isnt doing anyone any favours.

screwy.

even if screwy didnt do the SOA himself, i dont think that disqualifies him from being able to give tech advice on the job.............afterall he can take pics and send them through if shane wants to see them.......take measurments, anything.

Ive been throw this idea of playing with this MQ Instead of my Ford Maverick, the only thing that stops me is what you can and cant do in queensland, as the rig must be registered to enter some of the comp and the stuff you have to do to make them walk.



Kind regards

V8Patrol wrote: amaturer

He he he. Amateur

Stop it you children otherwise I'll spank you both...and you will like it, otherwise there will be more spankings until you both smile when it happens

Patroldude wrote:

V8Patrol wrote: amaturer

He he he. Amateur

ROFL I hope the spelling mistake was deliberate or was there a technical reason behind it?

I'll tell you what. I have a bog-standard suspension-wise MQ. I'm sure there's another similar mq owner on here. I'll give my MQ to screwy and someone give one to Patroldude and we'll see who does a spring-over better

Seriously, someone wanna help me springover my mq. I love to learn but I have no tools :(

Hang on....

4130warrior wrote:I'll tell you what. I have a bog-standard suspension-wise MQ. I'm sure there's another similar mq owner on here. I'll give my MQ to screwy and someone give one to Patroldude and we'll see who does a spring-over better

Seriously, someone wanna help me springover my mq. I love to learn but I have no tools :(

Yeah ok - there are a few parts I need.... wait you mean me do one? Heck no - leave that to people with more garage space and more time - I will do mine next year with some differences.... not better not worse just different.

Both Kingy and Screwy can do good work - kingy is nearly tripple Screwys age though - good work to both I say.

Now - back to helping Shane with his problem I feel the moderators may delete this is it is not kept on topic.

Mk

hardenup wrote:Ive been throw this idea of playing with this MQ Instead of my Ford Maverick, the only thing that stops me is what you can and cant do in queensland, as the rig must be registered to enter some of the comp and the stuff you have to do to make them walk.



Kind regards

Mate thats a nice neat looking MQ for sure.....

In all honesty i will ask you..... if you were not to worry about legal issues.... what would be the ideal setup you would like for your MQ?

once you have told us im sure we can work ways around it

ill help where i can

Thanks screwy_screwball and yes your right in what you say.
Well the MQ is unregd and already has front shock hoops. extended front and rear shackles, it has a rear air locker and has 36 inch silverstone tyres.
It' a mates of mine (well he will be my navie) once we start competing he hasnt the funds to do anything with it, hes just had another child born so he offered it to me as he'd like to see someone do something with it, so i will see it threw.

Ive been exploring the threads on yours and V8Patrols rigs and want to set up the same SOA etc. already seen a MK with reversed springs done by superior engineering up the road from me.

I love doing the work myself, ( a challenge, and save money etc) so just need to be put in the right direction to do so ( more researching and reading ).

Yours and V8Patrol rigs are inspiration.

Kind regards to all.

hardenup wrote:
Yours and V8Patrol rigs are inspiration.

Kind regards to all.

cheers mate....

Mine and Kingys rigs are now very different in design as i went a different way to him.... mines more of a rock crawler and his is setup much more for mud and touring....

so its sorta something u have to think about.... what will you be using it for.....???

then just ask for some help, im happy to provide if i can.

screwy

Well screwy_screwball, what i want to build is a comp rig to do extreme winch challanges,tough tracks,nissan trails etc.
In long term i want to compete in the outback challenge at some stage.
So i want to build around that short of comps.

Kind regards.

Im building a so called all round comp/fun truck. What i have is my MK whick is soa, reverse shackle front. I will be extended the wheel base 12 or so inches and at the moment it looks it will have a coil rear end and running 37to38" tyres. That is my idea for a all rounder, but others will think diffrent and that is there is right (we are all diffrent). So that is just a idea for you. Just think about it for a little while and things will role in your head. Thats the fun of it.

Screwy did your ute cab fit straight in place when you took the other body off, and is it possible to use the style side body and cut the back off and do a ute from that.

kind regards.

hardenup wrote:Screwy did your ute cab fit straight in place when you took the other body off, and is it possible to use the style side body and cut the back off and do a ute from that.

kind regards.

yeh my cab bolts straight on. all do. on the same mounts....

u can cut the back off your shorty and put a new back on it like that also.... i just chose to do the neater approach... not a fan of cutting panels....

screwy

insted of doing a SOA o coil coversion i think that is legal up there?

purses at 20 paces?