Outer Limits 4x4 Board

Hey folks,

As the weather begins to warm up in the coming months I know we'll all be running around with our tops off (hopefully the female passengers too).

However, how many of your run doorless as well?

Seeing as though there are NO side intrusion bars of any kind in a suzuki door, does anyone know the legalities of running doorless?

Seen a couple getting around without doors last summer but didn't want to get pinged by the cops.

If you REALLY KNOW if you can or can not please share.


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Title sounds like a contridiction.......

I would assume doorless would be illegal

AFAIK, you can run your Zook doorless (as it was designed to do), but you MUST have a drivers side mirror attached to the vehicle, close to where the one on the door would normally be.

Loads of people down here in Mexico run their Zooks minus doors and just have rear vision mirrors attached to the A-pillar.

I've run mine doorless and half doored on the road without any hassles with a side mirror. Without a mirror I've been warned a couple of times.

It's all to do with the structural integrity. If the vehicle relies on the doors being in place to maintain a certain level of rigidity then they must not be removed.

The simple answer is this: If the vehicle complies with ADR 37 (I think it's 37) then you must run doors. If your vehicle doesn't have to comply with this then you don't have to run doors but you must have a drivers side mirror.

Check your compliance plate and you'll find that sierra's don't have to comply with ADR 37 so you can legally run without doors.

Regards,
Matt.

Thanks Matt,

This has been a hotly talked about topic with friends. Finally someone comes up with some legal information.

You're a champ.

For those interested the 85 drover has the follow ADR numbers tamped on the plate:

1, 2, 3, 4c, 5b, 6, 7, 8, 11, 12, 14, 15, 16, 20, 22a, 23a, 24, 25a, 27c, 28a, 35a

while doing a littel research I came across this document. might be of use to some of you out there looking for engineers to approve shaite.

http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/registration/ ... /vsi15.pdf


These might also be of some use.
http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/registration/ ... /vsi01.pdf
change the number at the end all the way up to 47 and you can view all the documents listed in the above link

skip thats NSW wheres the QLD man.

mud4b wrote:skip thats NSW wheres the QLD man.

here's a booklet all qlders should have. most of you probably already have it.
http://www.transport.qld.gov.au/qt/driv ... ations.pdf

i'll keep posting links as I find them.

yeah got it its crap.doesnt tell us much.

all qld government website have to comply with information standard 26. inside of this all government website are forced to comply with what is called the C.U.E (consistent user experience).

it's the biggest load of shit. can never find anything on any qld government website.

so my search for a list of the ADR continues. i could go to goprint and order a copy for $75, but ouchies, I only need one or two sections from it. heheheheh

LJs came with soft vinyl doors as a factory spec item so I'd imagine that the cars have been built so the doors aren't structural items. I'd imagine that this would probably hold true to Sierras

grimbo wrote:LJs came with soft vinyl doors as a factory spec item so I'd imagine that the cars have been built so the doors aren't structural items. I'd imagine that this would probably hold true to Sierras

I bought an LJ-80 in about 1992 and took it over rego to have it changed to my name without doors or a roof on it. Got knocked back on alot of stuff, but there was no problem with having no doors.

I have discovered that university libraries often have a copy of the ADR's. (Monash does) You don't need to be a student to rip pages out of a university text book.

I havn't checked it myself yet, but the Qld Transport specs are written about the ADR's. It might be worth checking out this site; http://www.transport.qld.gov.au/qt/driver.nsf/index/vehiclemods
theres a download at the end which should cover whether you require a compliance plate or not in Qld for most mod's..

Bohdidog

yeah that's the same link I gave earlier. :(

it's a dodgy booklet that tells you buggar all, unless you want a bonnet scoop or something Grimace like that.

skippy wrote:yeah that's the same link I gave earlier. :(

No one takes any notice of you skip..perhaps u need to use lots of pretty colours and big font

like

http://www.transport.qld.gov.au/qt/driver.nsf/files/images/$file/Vehicle-Modifications.pdf

Sorry,

Was to busy looking at the pictures. My wife says there are some really good articles in Penthouse too. I didn't know Penthouse had articles.

Bohdidog