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Alignment of pullies
Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 6:55 pm
by RB zook
ok so ive got my pwr steer pump and making thr brackets
thou i know it is critical to get then 2 pullies perfectly inline other wise it will be killing belts in no tiome
is there a certain way to get them lined up or i just do it to wat i think is good and carry spare belts?
Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 7:00 pm
by bazooked
use a straight edge on 1 pully and check the diff against the other 1
Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 7:08 pm
by RB zook
yueah i know this just wondering if they was some alignment tool maby
should be able to get it pritty close
Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 11:00 pm
by hypo
RB zook wrote:yueah i know this just wondering if they was some alignment tool maby
should be able to get it pritty close
yes the alignment tool is called a straight edge

Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 11:23 pm
by bj42turbo
bazooked wrote:use a straight edge on 1 pully and check the diff against the other 1
Yeah thats what i did when I fabbed up a bracket for a Commodore pump on my 40 series
BJ
Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 11:37 pm
by bru21
if its a v belt, miss alignment by even an obvious amount is ok. a serpentine well get it a bit better. i ran the toyota powersteer on my chev350 in the bundera and it was out by 7mm and it was fine. it couldn't be right as the pump bottomed out on the block and simply stuck out too far
Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 11:51 am
by murcod
I'm running a different alternator on my engine and the pulley is out by a bit (v belt). I had a lot of belt squealing due to the misalignment, but some GUD Drilube has fixed that.
The belt doesn't seem to be suffering at all and has been like it for about two months now.
Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 1:18 pm
by RB zook
should be rite
just concerend about belt last abilit guess just keep a spare one in the car
Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 2:02 pm
by Tojo
try to get it as good as possible. Missalignment will place stress on pump seals and bearings as well as the belt! If you can't fit a straight edge in the engine bay try using a piece of string. Hold it tight on one side of one of the pullies and slowly move it till it lines up with the other pulley. Seeing where it first touches the other pulley (near or far side) will indicate the alignment. This is the method we use to align fans, compressors etc when there is insufficient room to fit in a standard straight edge such as a spirit level or straight piece of steel.
Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 10:24 am
by bazzle
A little bit of misalignment is OK until your running along at 100ks for a couple of hours and the hot belt flys off taking a hose with it
Bazzle
Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 11:07 am
by Shadow
bazzle wrote:A little bit of misalignment is OK until your running along at 100ks for a couple of hours and the hot belt flys off taking a hose with it
Bazzle
or your in the middle of fucking no-where and you forgot to bring a socket set along with your spare belt so you got no hope in hell fitting the new one!
Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 11:34 am
by ZOOK60
Shadow wrote:bazzle wrote:A little bit of misalignment is OK until your running along at 100ks for a couple of hours and the hot belt flys off taking a hose with it
Bazzle
or your in the middle of ***** no-where and you forgot to bring a socket set along with your spare belt so you got no hope in hell fitting the new one!
just use your shoe laces when the belt brakes worked for me for a few ks any way

Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 12:06 pm
by Gribble
We had a hilux at work that had a misaligned alternater mounting. What ended up happening was the load placed on the harmonic balancer ripped it off its vulcanised rubber and forced it back into the timing case. Eventually it tore through the case (which is just plastic) and jammed the timing belt, which made is shear all its teeth off, stopping the camshaft from rotating. Piston then came up into No.3's intake valve and forced the whole valve into the cam and snapped it at its journal. New long block from toyota was $7500.
Moral of the story is, yes, alignment of your pullies is farking critical in my book.

Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 6:30 pm
by murcod
Gribble, what sort of misalignment are you talking about here? A couple of millimetres, or a lot more? Was the belt overtensioned too perhaps?
Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 6:42 pm
by RB zook
its all mounted and i moved when i welded the bracket
its 1 mm out over the distance of the pully
thou hopefully when i get the belt and tention it it should pull into line
i thiing it will be rite
Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 7:00 pm
by bj42turbo
1mm is that all it will be fine
BJ
Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 7:30 pm
by RB zook
haha i got sent a pic of a belt thats 20 mm out and
he has only ever done 1 belt due to it being old as
Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 8:29 pm
by Gribble
murcod wrote:Gribble, what sort of misalignment are you talking about here? A couple of millimetres, or a lot more? Was the belt overtensioned too perhaps?
I dont know, this was about 2 years ago and my memory sucks ass. But it would have been at least 10mm. It would have been hard to tell if it was overtigtened because the balancer had shifted.
I dont think 1mm is anything to worry about. Most factory engines arent even that close.