Outer Limits 4x4 Board

Hey this is just to get an idea of interest from fello rover enthusiast with 3-4" spring lifts that may be interested in custom made cranked front radius arms.
To give you an idea of what I am talking about they can be found here;
www.rovertym.com/radiusarms.htm
I am considering making a similar item but will not involve cranking of a standard arm it will be a complete cast high tensile biz-alloy construction (on peice, no welds)

I have looked into the option of having them made slightly longer (14-16mm) and also have to reasearch on the different thickness of radius arms as they changed as years went buy.

My main aim is to get sum good quality radius arms at a good affordable price. Now i dont know wat you would class as affordable, so thats why I am asking wat YOUR opinions are and wat YOU would like to pay (if you are even interested at all)

This is all to decide weather its worth me putting my time and sum $$$ down to make these available to you.
They will all be the same (except diff end bush width) to suit 3-4" spring lifts. They will over correct castor on a 2" lift.

People that have seen the difference these have made to my lifted vehicle alone, I am sure will recomend them. I just dont know wat sorta value these things are worth so hopefully this can get a ball rolling


Cheers
Anthony

they are worth what ever some will pay.

if you are talking 1000-1500 a set then you wont sell any, can crank stock arms for nothing.

Michael.

HSV Rangie wrote:they are worth what ever some will pay.

if you are talking 1000-1500 a set then you wont sell any, can crank stock arms for nothing.

Michael.

NO def not looking at rediculous figures like that. prob not even half that.
And the cranking of stock arms for nuthing is wat my main concern is pricewise.

Wat would people say to $450 (thats wat i am lookin at but I am fairly sure i have over budgeted so should hopefully be able to bring that price down)

Everyones feedback counts thank you

Cheers
Anthony

P.S. Michael could you please do a rough cost calculation to bringin in them rovertym units and pm it to me just to give me a better idea of import cost to end users

Your biggest cost will be machining the bush holes

rest is pretty cheap to do.

Michael.

Anthony

The Qtservices modified arms are about $500 to Brisbane

http://www.qtservices.co.uk/

I am still looking at cranked front arms to suit a 2 inch spring lift, but am worried about vibration as some people on the forum have vibration and some don't. I have got use to steering wonder at 100kph.

Cheers

Andrew

Now if you can can up with some adjustable cranked arms, you'll be on a winner.

I know you mention 3 inch lift and above - my interest would be in 2 inch lift. price - about $300 - $350.

Loanrangie wrote:Now if you can can up with some adjustable cranked arms, you'll be on a winner.

hmmm maybe a possibility but then cost will be much much higher.
and i dont beleive the adjustments would be precise enough.

But ill have a look into it

86MUD wrote:Anthony

The Qtservices modified arms are about $500 to Brisbane

http://www.qtservices.co.uk/

I am still looking at cranked front arms to suit a 2 inch spring lift, but am worried about vibration as some people on the forum have vibration and some don't. I have got use to steering wonder at 100kph.

Cheers

Andrew

I looked at these but thought they would be more than $500 landed in brisbane.
These are not cranked so at 4" of lift your chassis bush will be under to much load at ride height (not good).

Id have to look into the 2" lift cranked arms but it shouldnt be a problem and when i think about it the demand for them might be much higher.

Anthony

In a previous thread on slotted bushes you posted a photo of a set of front (cranked?) radius arms painted bright yellow....where are they from?

Cheers

Andrew

86MUD wrote:Anthony

In a previous thread on slotted bushes you posted a photo of a set of front (cranked?) radius arms painted bright yellow....where are they from?

Cheers

Andrew

They are the rovertym units from the mob in the link I posted in the original thread ---> www.rovertym.com

AnthonyP wrote:

Loanrangie wrote:Now if you can can up with some adjustable cranked arms, you'll be on a winner.

hmmm maybe a possibility but then cost will be much much higher.
and i dont beleive the adjustments would be precise enough.

But ill have a look into it

not that hard to do.

make arms shorter.
Have another collar threaded inside that screws over arms with chassy mounting on other end.

easy as.

Or do what rover tym do make chassy mount end of arm longer and have spacers to set up arms as required.

Michael.

What are the ramifications of lengthening the radius arms? I understand that a new prop shaft would need to fabbed...but what about the springs, shocks and steering gear?

Just curious....

Cheers

Andrew

HSV Rangie wrote:

AnthonyP wrote:

Loanrangie wrote:Now if you can can up with some adjustable cranked arms, you'll be on a winner.

hmmm maybe a possibility but then cost will be much much higher.
and i dont beleive the adjustments would be precise enough.

But ill have a look into it

not that hard to do.

make arms shorter.
Have another collar threaded inside that screws over arms with chassy mounting on other end.

easy as.

Or do what rover tym do make chassy mount end of arm longer and have spacers to set up arms as required.

Michael.

bahaha and here i am thinkin of a way to make the castor adjustable

I can def make them adjustable lengthways

86MUD wrote:What are the ramifications of lengthening the radius arms? I understand that a new prop shaft would need to fabbed...but what about the springs, shocks and steering gear?

Just curious....

Cheers

Andrew

I dont think you would wanna be lengthening them to such a degree that you need to change all the steering and spring positionry.

I think it would just be for fine tuning of the resting and compressed position of the wheels in the well.

but surely just even an increase of say 20mm would cause added stress to the top and bottom shock mounts etc...

Sorry...just throwing in my 2c worth.

cheers

Andrew

86MUD wrote:but surely just even an increase of say 20mm would cause added stress to the top and bottom shock mounts etc...

Sorry...just throwing in my 2c worth.

cheers

Andrew

yeah i would think 20mm would cause abit of added stress exspeciall under compression. I have never tried it so I cant comment on it.

I know that the nissan blokes can get 20mm spacers put on their front radius arms without any dramas though.

AnthonyP wrote:

86MUD wrote:but surely just even an increase of say 20mm would cause added stress to the top and bottom shock mounts etc...

Sorry...just throwing in my 2c worth.

cheers

Andrew

yeah i would think 20mm would cause abit of added stress exspeciall under compression. I have never tried it so I cant comment on it.

I know that the nissan blokes can get 20mm spacers put on their front radius arms without any dramas though.

I think the drama with the front end shock mounts would be because they are vertically mounted up the guts of the spring. I think that Nissan and Toyota have the shock outside the spring like on the rear of our machines. Maybe that's why they can sneak an extra 20 mm?

I know from having seen Anthony's RR off road that the front end travel is very good and the angles from the lift are corrected - to my eyesight anyway - by the rovertym arms. I would also like to see some trailing arms for that sort of lift as mine are fighting the bush on down travel, and I am sure that the bush will scrub out before long.


MIcka