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Turbo install assistance needed
Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 6:11 pm
by whiteknight
I got hold of a CT20 turbo and manifold today and am looking at fitting it to my 2.8D Hilux.
From my research so far I know the following:
1. the water lines hook up to the heater hoses (no idea where/how)
2. the oil intake line connects to the Oil sender unit with a T peice of some sort
3. The oil return can connec to the alternator oil return with a t peice
Is there anyone around Brisbane Southside that has done this that could offer some assistance or let me check out their engine bay so I can get a better idea on what I need to do?
Whiteknight...
Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 6:42 pm
by bazooked
got to the toymods website lots of usefull info and people to help u out, fark payin $2500, when u can do it ur selffor way way cheaper.
http://forums.toymods.org.au/
Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 9:03 pm
by Slayer
mines not water cooled so i cant help u there..
my oil return goes to a T pecie at the alternator return, perteck can help u with fabbin up the right T peices( i know this cause i snapped one tryin to unscrew it, ezy outed it then got pertec to make me a newy...
my oil intake is right up the back of the drivers side of the motor, seperate to the pressure sender which is just behind the vac pump on the alternator..
Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2005 12:34 am
by spazbot
i just did this very install , its a piece of piss, i got the extra heater hoses etc with mine, but you can just purchase some T pieces and put them into the heater hoses, same with the oil lines they go exaclty where u thought
u need to moveone of the exhaust manifold studsin the block as they are diff for the 2.8 and 2.4 if the engine has done a bit off off rd work it might help to run a tap through the holes that the bolts will go into that havnt been used before to remove me shit (think its a m10 x1.25 fine thread)
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Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2005 1:44 pm
by whiteknight
as I dont have the crossover pipes whats the easiest way to get them made up?
I was going to use stainless steel exhaust pipe but how do i know what bends etc i need until its actually bolted on the car? Or is that where the rubber pipe comes into play? and where do you buy this stuff from?
confused

Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2005 1:47 pm
by spazbot
i got my corssover pipes made up by overkill eng in sydney
i just drove it up ther with a filter over the turbo and got them to plumb it up, any turbo shop should be able to do the same
Re: turbo
Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2005 5:58 pm
by Daisy
whiteknight wrote:as I dont have the crossover pipes whats the easiest way to get them made up?
I was going to use stainless steel exhaust pipe but how do i know what bends etc i need until its actually bolted on the car? Or is that where the rubber pipe comes into play? and where do you buy this stuff from?
confused

go to a truck shop.. such as Qld diesel spares or the like... where they sell truck ACCESSORIES and flaps etc...
last time i checked one of them out.. they had nearly EVERYTHING for pipes and bends and rubber joins... worth lookin in there..

Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2005 9:19 pm
by Chucky
I went to Motsons on Beaudesert rd at coopers plains. Have helped me out no worries with hoses and shit for my turbo.
Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2005 8:34 am
by flyinwall
for $2500 you can get a complete low milage import 2.4 turbo motor from ABC auto gear i had to replace the motor in my surf and he was the cheapest i could find and the motor only had 43000 km on it
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Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2005 2:03 pm
by whiteknight
flyinwall wrote:for $2500 you can get a complete low milage import 2.4 turbo motor from ABC auto gear i had to replace the motor in my surf and he was the cheapest i could find and the motor only had 43000 km on it
But why would I want to replace my 2.8 with a 2.4? If I turbo my 2.8D it will be better than the standard surf motor - wouldn't it?
Re: turbo
Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2005 2:35 pm
by Slayer
whiteknight wrote:flyinwall wrote:for $2500 you can get a complete low milage import 2.4 turbo motor from ABC auto gear i had to replace the motor in my surf and he was the cheapest i could find and the motor only had 43000 km on it
But why would I want to replace my 2.8 with a 2.4? If I turbo my 2.8D it will be better than the standard surf motor - wouldn't it?
i think his comment was in regards to you stating earlier
Or am I better off just forking out the $2,500 for a mitsubishi Turbo?
although still how can u really tell if the motor only had 43000 on it??? bloke coulda pulled that number out of the sky, and even if the speedo in the car the motor came out of said 4300, it could be the second time round!
Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 11:31 am
by whiteknight
Went to Motsons Turbo just to get the CT20 turbo checked out before I put it on and he said not to hook the oil drain up to the alternator return becuase it will back up into the turbo and instead to tap straight into the sump above the oil level.
Just to throw a spanner inthe works I thought i had it all sorted
i went to a few other turbo places (although none of them will fit the turbo for me) and they are split 50/50 on where to plum the oil return..
Also for the oil feed apparently there is a extra feed on the block is it as simple as just removing this bolt and screwing in a fitting to use it as an oil feed?
Confused ....
Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 3:34 pm
by Patroler
Yea thats true, i'd be pullin the sump off and getting a peice of pipe welded to it (above the oil level) and make it about 3/4" you really want the oil to come out of the turbo and just basically fall into the sump. Get the pipe bent up so that it faces the turbo's oil outlet then you just need a peice of hose with a fitting for the turbo and a hose clamp - this end is low pressure.
My last turbo car ran the oil feed off of the pressure sender line, but if you had a seperate fitting you could find out if it is indeed pressurised and able to supply the turbo, as far as water cooling i guess it wouldn't matter which way it was hooked up, just tee one end into one heater hose and the other end into the other - supply and return so that it flows throught the turbo as well as the heater but not to the heater via the turbo.
not 100% on that water hookup tho....
Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 10:40 am
by jessie928
the best way to plumb the oil return is the way thats going to provide the LEAST restriction
you cant go wrong if you plumb it to your sump.
Jes
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Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 1:31 pm
by Bluey
How do work out oil level of sump to run oil return line to. I'm about to install a Garrett turbo to a 3b and never done one b4. think i'll be asking alot more questions
Lance
Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 7:08 pm
by 80-RPM
I have just finished a turbo conversion to my 'other' car
Its a BBT25 on an avo monifold
water and oil lines are easy to hook up you just have to find the best place
my oil in comes dirctly from the oil presure sender oil drain goes to sump all i had to do was dril a hole tap it out and screw in the suplied fitting(enzed would have the fitting you need)
as for water comes directly from the water pump and plumbs back into the heater system
If you need anything fabed up give me a yell usually do FMIC for the turbo 4 guys but have been doing a little 4x4 stuff choping tubs etc
And I'm southside bris
if you have a manifold for the turbo you should be able to do it fairly easily
as once you do it you can get the hose guys to come out to you and the'll make the hoses to suit
Ryan.
Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 9:31 pm
by high n mighty
This thread has got me thinking about my turbo blowing oil out the exhaust and being very smokey. My return line goes back to the sump from memory though I wonder if the return line may be too low on the sump???
I have had it rebuilt twice and had the same issues. About to attempt a re-seal myself but I wonder if it sits too low would this cause the same issues?
Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 7:08 am
by jessie928
best put the return in as high up the sump as you can so the oil drops out of the pipe and doesent have to deal with hitting oil in the pipe if its below the oil level. Depending on oil flow through the turbo your pipe may back up enough to spit oil out your seals.
Jes