Outer Limits 4x4 Board

i aquired a car trailer, free of charge that needs alittle work.

the trailer was registered and i have the old plates and papers. it has'nt be rego'd for about 3 years, has no id tags and no load id plate. it does have a dodgie punched number on the front draw bar rail. it is a tandam with the brakes on the rear wheels, cable style.

questions refer to QLD

1. how would i go re-registering this?
2. would you lenghten the draw bar (it is really short) and restamp the number before doing so?
3. how do i work out the load limit of the trailer (for rego and ins).
4. should i burn it and buy a new one?


NICK

NICK wrote:
should i burn it and buy a new one?


NICK

Call me and I will burn it for you .. at my house.

Work out what hubs, wheels and axles you have and you will be well on your way to figuring the capacity

Are the brakes electric or overrun ?

Tom

I'm not sure about up your way, but

As it's been out of rego for more than 3 months, it will require a blue slip, or whatever you guys have similar??

Dodgy numbers not real good

If you want to replace the drawbar, i'd let the inspection man stamp the numbers into the new one.

The trailer load limit will be worked out as Load Capacity of Both Axles - Weight of Whole Trailer eg. my bike trailer has an 1160kg axle, trailer weighs 320kg (hold six motorbikes though), so 1160 - 320 = 840kg payload.

As long as your brake setup is rated for the total load limit (max. axle ratings) and in good working order it should be alright.

As for number 4), if you choose this option how about i take it away and burn it for you?

yeah well that ruined my joke about option number 4.... gotta be quick!

RaginRover wrote:

NICK wrote:
should i burn it and buy a new one?


NICK

Call me and I will burn it for you .. at my house.

Work out what hubs, wheels and axles you have and you will be well on your way to figuring the capacity

Are the brakes electric or overrun ?

Tom

early holden hubs and brakes, overrun. i am going to convert these to electic thou.


NICK

In NSW its pretty much as stackson said


Go to a public weigh bridge weigh trailer (price of rego goes off this if its over 251kg a pink slip is required each year)

Book in for a Blue slip (they check everything ????) Make sure it has the brakes and drawbar you want now its easier.

*note* if trailer was build before 1988 it doesnt have to have a ID plate just a chassis number $10 at blue slip,If build after 1988 but have a Built ID plate ,what ever they are.

Go to RTA with a reciept (you`ll need one to prove ownership),blue slip papers,weighbridge slip,vasoline and a packed lunch (may need dinner if go to Maitland).

Thats what you have to do here so i`d guess some of it would be the same up there.They work out how much weight you can carry by the size of tyres,brakeing on axles etc

In Qld for a trailer over 750kg you will need to get a safety certificate, similar to a car. Trailers of over two tonne need further or more detailed inspection. As it has been previously registered as long as everything works OK you should be right. If it doesn't have a compliance plate you will have to apply for this before you get it inspected, put the manufacturer down as unknown.

The drawbar length on a car trailer isn't really too much of an issue as the effective length will be the mid point between the two axles. Most vehicles will be able to turn a lot faster then the trailer so it should be relatively easy to control. Unless you think it will jack knife on you and damage you tow vehicle I wouldn't bother.

Changing the brakes over to electric would be a good idea as it'll give you a lot better control of a trailer that'll be around two tonne.

cable over-ride is limited to 2000kg, so if you are going to change the brakes and the drawbar anyway, then get it re-certified as a new trailer.

Give Les a call at BATC, 3890 4211, he has all the details you could need (he builds trailers - Brisbane Axle and Trailer Components)