Outer Limits 4x4 Board

G'day guys,

I've got an 88rr that has about a 60mm spring lift i've fitted rockcrawler shocks up front that are ment to be longer than standard (i don't see it). But at the rear im running standard Bilsteins that came with the car. At full travel in the rear i can see the shock reaching it's limit. Whats a cheap way to improve suspension travel? change the position of the shock? i have a set of GU rear shocks should i fit them? How about the brake lines can you lengthen them without buying new ones?
sorry abiout all the questions
thanks

toby.

Check the length of the patrol shock. If the Bilstein is longer, then don't bother. If not, then get a pin to eye adaptor and throw the patrol shock in. Your brake lines should not need lengthening with 60mm lift, but if they are straining at full tilt, you just need them extended. No big deal. You can move the top shock mount down (have to drill new holes) but just make sure that the up-travel is within the range for the shock. Could be messy otherwise.

Micka

Your GU shock is going to be quite a bit too long unless you tie in your coil. Maybe limitind straps. It will cost you about $65 for the pin to eye adapter and you will gain about 30mm in length.

For the front, you really need a standard length 80 series. Not your aftermarket shocks for they will be too long.
I can supply standard height cruiser front if you are interested. (About $100 Each for KYB)

Shane at shanetamie@bigpond.com or 0409 593 414

4WD Stuff wrote:Your GU shock is going to be quite a bit too long unless you tie in your coil. Maybe limitind straps. It will cost you about $65 for the pin to eye adapter and you will gain about 30mm in length.

For the front, you really need a standard length 80 series. Not your aftermarket shocks for they will be too long.
I can supply standard height cruiser front if you are interested. (About $100 Each for KYB)

Shane at shanetamie@bigpond.com or 0409 593 414

Jees Shane...you are taking all of the fun out of it for him

You could go one step further and use 80 series shocks front and rear All you have to do is weld an eye mount onto the end of the shock and fit her up...then have someone make you a set of dislocation cones and watch your arse end flex like stretch man from Fantastic 4.

Micka

Thanks guy's looks like my rear end will be flexing like stretch man soon.

Actually just on the topic if my suspenioni is 60mm higher can i just lower the rear shocks by 60mm? how can i be sure that i wont make the rear shocks turn into a credit cards on full articulaton?

Toby.

Alright Micka
What some guys do in the front is throw in the cruiser front shocks and put a spacer or spacers where your shock tower bolts together. If you don't do this you will over compress your shock when your flexin or when you hit a bump hard.

As for the break lines as far as I know the best thing you can do is replace them with new ones. So pull off one of your break lines and take it to a break specialist and ask them to make up some longer ones. 4 for the front and one for the rear. I am sure there is a thread somewhere explaining this if you don't already know how to bleed them.

If you keep those GU shocks, make sure you make up some really long dislocating cones. If you decide not to go with your other ideas then:
Procomps $125 each(Free delivery) have 4 shock sizes to suit the rear
I will give extended lengths. These are eye top pin bottom.
622mm
673mm and
698mm

Shane

Where in Brisbane are you?

Micka wrote: All you have to do is weld an eye mount onto the end of the shock and fit her up
Micka

It would be better to remake the mount to take the pin to pin
shock

Tom

for those that cannot make own mount. pin eye adaptor.

dont but one from 4x4 shop 30-40 bucks.

go to trailer parts supply or supercheap ect.

Get spring hangers $6-9 each.

then drill hole in base for bolting to existing pin hole.

Michael.

HSV Rangie wrote:for those that cannot make own mount. pin eye adaptor.

dont but one from 4x4 shop 30-40 bucks.

go to trailer parts supply or supercheap ect.

Get spring hangers $6-9 each.

then drill hole in base for bolting to existing pin hole.

Michael.

You mean something like this ?

So you flip that over so the pin can head through and drill mounting holes
it the other surface so they can bolt onto the chassis, are they going to be strong enough and give you the right location for shock, I guess you just lie them back a and over a bit to suit .

Tom

Drill 10-11 mm hole here.

use Ht bolts.

yes more than strong enough.

Michael.

what are the rough dimensions of that hanger ?

(I will check them out tomorrow though) are you able to get two bolts in the section you marked with the red, should you gusset (sp?) the outsides of that.

And one last thing, I assume you would use the bottom hole to bolt the shock up to

Cheers
Tom

once that hole is drilled it wil bolt onto the existing shock mount same as buying a $40.00 set of 2.

It will just fit.

Hanger is aprox 50mm inside.

Only needs on hole where red is if fiting to Rear RR lower.

Michael.

Isn't the 80 series rear a pin/pin shock?

I am pretty sure that is why HI JACK had to weld an eye to the pin on the top of the shock.

The adaptor that you are referring to, Michael, is for mounting on the axel housing, isn't it? That would work for the patrol shock, but not the 80 series. Your design would be better than the 4b shop ones...I am yet to see one that didn't need to be bashed to make the shock fit

Micka

in the rangie i run 4'' cruiser coils, and aftermarket gq shockies with the pin to eye conversions on the rear, the flex is huge and clears the 38, then theres 100 mm cone top and bottom. after that if we get serious we disconnect the shockies and 8mm chain runs up the inside of the coils as a limiter which adds another 120 mm more drop after the shock.

however i advise that if you are going to big travel the rear upper control arm bush may flog out running at such hard angles, in mine i bent chassis mount any way so i cut them off then i welded the matching lower bush with the eye to the upper arm then plated both sides of the chassis with 10mm and just run a 8'' spigot bolt right threw the chassis which now allows techiqally 360 deg movement with out the bush squeezing its arse out

Rangie ute on 38'' wrote:in the rangie i run 4'' cruiser coils, and aftermarket gq shockies with the pin to eye conversions on the rear, the flex is huge and clears the 38, then theres 100 mm cone top and bottom. after that if we get serious we disconnect the shockies and 8mm chain runs up the inside of the coils as a limiter which adds another 120 mm more drop after the shock.

however i advise that if you are going to big travel the rear upper control arm bush may flog out running at such hard angles, in mine i bent chassis mount any way so i cut them off then i welded the matching lower bush with the eye to the upper arm then plated both sides of the chassis with 10mm and just run a 8'' spigot bolt right threw the chassis which now allows techiqally 360 deg movement with out the bush squeezing its arse out

You're a butcher, Luke

Micka

then i wont tell you bout when i bobbed tailed it

Rangie ute on 38'' wrote:then i wont tell you bout when i bobbed tailed it

Oh, don't be such a girl

now look what u done

all right you two thats enough now Luke where the vid from lcmp.

HI JACK wrote:all right you two thats enough now Luke where the vid from lcmp.

Holy sh*t...you do know how to post a message

you dont need the video as usual your rover spent its time with the bonnet up at the camp site so theres no footage of it.flame and abuse suit on.

Rangie ute on 38'' wrote:you dont need the video as usual your rover spent its time with the bonnet up at the camp site so theres no footage of it.flame and abuse suit on.

OWNED

C'mon Harley...he is suited up and ready for a flaming.

all right ladys time and place bring it on

by the way shouldn't we be talking about shocks

Harley

so ahhh micka when are you selling those rims n 37'' to me. u know itd look so much better on mine

yea so ne way hows the underside of your bonnet harley

Do you two need to get a room?

And yes...we have strayed too far off topic.



So Tobias...have you done anything about the shocks yet?


Micka

tobias just go with 80 series shocks with michael's converter's,some cones and have some good cheep fun

Just changed the shock position by 2inches and using heavy duty cable ties to hold the springs in place. thanks for the help i'm really happy with the articulation improvment it means i don't need the maxi as often.