Outer Limits 4x4 Board

Everytime i seem to go offroading, i notice that the body of my defender compresses. Usually i just hear the noises of the door seals. But today i got out of the car to have a look at my articulation, and had trouble opening and closing the door.

Just wondering if anyone else notices this?

quite normal...

That's why they are built with huge panel gaps.

Tim

tim wrote:That's why they are built with huge panel gaps.

Tim

I thought that was just British engineering

fewww i have the same thing but wasnt game to say ne thing. sounds normal

Might be worth checking it over though - have a good look for chassis cracks, broken body mounts etc.

Regards
Max P

You guys must have the ones that were built on Monday mornings...

Either that, or I am not going hard enough.

Micka

Some decent rock sliders help strengthen the body up quite noticeably

the rangie's front doors catch in the top of the A pillar when you pick it up but the siders have made a bit of a difference,

this is pretty much the case with every car I have owned, even my old mazda 626 used to do the same thing, although there were no sliders to
fix up the flex

Tom

4wdn00b wrote:Everytime i seem to go offroading, i notice that the body of my defender compresses. Usually i just hear the noises of the door seals. But today i got out of the car to have a look at my articulation, and had trouble opening and closing the door.

Just wondering if anyone else notices this?

you forgot to mention you also had trouble reversing out after checking out your flex...

Went to Iceland in a 110. When I came back there was no paint left on the doors inside the frames where they rubbed against the seals. Movement plus volcanis dust.

Tim

..Down here, we see quite a bit of 'compression' on the 110's that are up at the base for servicemen to hire when off duty....

(..They seem to have trouble staying on the road...)

Result...They kind of compress all over really, 'bout as wide as a Suzi Heap, short as a 90 & roof level with bonnet...that kind of thing..

(...Or was'nt that quite what you meant...???? )

I think that is 'squashed'

I notice this very slightly on my IIA ute - when at maximum wheel travel bothends the door is a bit harder to open and close, but only very slightly. Don't notice it at all on my 110 county wagon though.

never had a problem with my old rangie

I am noticing similar on my 85 rangie, i can see the front screen moving in the frame. Also noticed some hairline cracks in 1 door pillar - anyone else had this with a pre 86 ( not welded together ) 4 dr rangie ?

I get the same thing on the Disco.
Rear door gets jammed closed sometimes when you're crossed up.

I reckon the body lift probably makes it worse too.

Loanrangie wrote:I am noticing similar on my 85 rangie, i can see the front screen moving in the frame. Also noticed some hairline cracks in 1 door pillar - anyone else had this with a pre 86 ( not welded together ) 4 dr rangie ?

Yeh, ANT ROVER (Anthony) had this prob. I think his Pillar almost snapped clean in half

Check them all.

Dave.

DaveS3 wrote:

Loanrangie wrote:I am noticing similar on my 85 rangie, i can see the front screen moving in the frame. Also noticed some hairline cracks in 1 door pillar - anyone else had this with a pre 86 ( not welded together ) 4 dr rangie ?

Yeh, ANT ROVER (Anthony) had this prob. I think his Pillar almost snapped clean in half

Check them all.

Dave.

Fairly common from what I hear - grind them out and weld them up

Tom

I have not noticed anything body wise but i know the chassis twists just over an inch (both ways, so theoreticaly 2") when max articulation is weighted upon it.

Looks kinda funny when you can see the chassis out of alighnment from front to rear
The body rubbers must be working well.

AnthonyP wrote:I have not noticed anything body wise but i know the chassis twists just over an inch (both ways, so theoreticaly 2") when max articulation is weighted upon it.

Looks kinda funny when you can see the chassis out of alighnment from front to rear
The body rubbers must be working well.

From 86 on Rangies were spot welded together making them stiffer, the early ones only rely on rivets, self tappers and a handful of bolts !

Loanrangie wrote:

AnthonyP wrote:I have not noticed anything body wise but i know the chassis twists just over an inch (both ways, so theoreticaly 2") when max articulation is weighted upon it.

Looks kinda funny when you can see the chassis out of alighnment from front to rear
The body rubbers must be working well.

From 86 on Rangies were spot welded together making them stiffer, the early ones only rely on rivets, self tappers and a handful of bolts !

mine is an 89

yep mine does this ( only the rear door ) when realy twisted up.... ive also pop some pop rivets along the rear sides from being realy twisted up.. must flex a little hey

Shut the back door's and watch the rear quarters flex.......... there is a reason behind the sliding glass..............