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Snake Hi Steer Arms
Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2003 7:50 pm
by suprasurf
Had a pair of snake arm floating around the garage for the last few months, so decided to fit them on to see if I could clear the sump etc..
Anyway they fit OK ( as they should ) BUT the tie rod is way above the springs !!! Surely the arms only need to place the tie rod just above the springs, not 40mm above ??
Should I rotate the axle and/or would lifted front hangers help ??
That means I have to lift my motor heaps. Any one got pics of these arms fitted, crossed up etc... might have to bin em - make my own or go back to push / pull :(
Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2003 8:14 pm
by MissDrew
When mine is fully crossed up I can make the springs touch the arms, JUST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.
I think that explains them being 40mm above
Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2003 8:17 pm
by POS
If your gunna bin them i will give you $50.00 aud for them!
Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2003 8:20 pm
by RUFF
Yep i think that is the normal height for them.
These are pics of Dave's(guts) car from Snake racing's site.
The second pic the spring looks to be on compresion.
Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2003 8:23 pm
by Area54
POS wrote:If your gunna bin them i will give you $50.00 aud for them!
I'll give you $50 and a video!
Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2003 8:25 pm
by suprasurf
Guts wrote:When mine is fully crossed up I can make the springs touch the arms, JUST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.
I think that explains them being 40mm above
How close is your sump ??
Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2003 8:26 pm
by suprasurf
Area54 wrote:POS wrote:If your gunna bin them i will give you $50.00 aud for them!
I'll give you $50 and a video!
Speaking of Vids - Thanks for the quick postage and excellent footage, wish we could get some action like that over here !!
Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2003 8:28 pm
by RUFF
What videos did you get?
Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2003 8:30 pm
by suprasurf
RUFF wrote:What videos did you get?
XRCC round 0
Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2003 8:36 pm
by MissDrew
suprasurf wrote:Guts wrote:When mine is fully crossed up I can make the springs touch the arms, JUST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.
I think that explains them being 40mm above
How close is your sump ??
Before doing the 40mm motor lift they would touch when crossed up or jumped. It was by heaps but enough to fark things if not fixed.
now they don`t touch at all. As for how much they miss by I`m not 100% but i think its around 20 to 30mm.
Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2003 8:41 pm
by Area54
suprasurf wrote:Speaking of Vids - Thanks for the quick postage and excellent footage, wish we could get some action like that over here !!
No dramas, glad you all enjoyed it.
Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2003 8:43 pm
by Area54
RUFF wrote:What videos did you get?
Area69
Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2003 8:46 pm
by suprasurf
Guts wrote:suprasurf wrote:Guts wrote:When mine is fully crossed up I can make the springs touch the arms, JUST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.
I think that explains them being 40mm above
How close is your sump ??
before doing the 40mm motor lift they would touch when crossed up or jumped. It was by heaps but enough to fark things if not fixed.
now they don`t touch at all. As for how much they miss by I`m not 100% but i think its around 20 to 30mm.
I think that the sump is going to be the killa, Bugga I don't think I can mod it any more. I'll push it outa garage tomorrow and high lift it to see how close it all gets. More pics to come 2morrow !
Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2003 9:12 am
by ausyota
does anyone know if snake racing has addressed the problems mentioned in this post
http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/PHP_Modul ... php?t=3851
regarding tapers and such?
Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2003 9:05 pm
by beebee
Ryan told me that he had. Why not give him a call?
I've also found Chaos 4x4 very helpful too!
Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2003 9:08 pm
by hypo
well aparently they new batches have been rectified but i am still waiting on my replacement set yet so i cant confirm this but Rhino assuress me that they have been fixed
Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2003 10:08 pm
by spazbot
rhino is up in qld at the moment
Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2003 6:11 am
by suprasurf
hypolux wrote:well aparently they new batches have been rectified but i am still waiting on my replacement set yet so i cant confirm this but Rhino assuress me that they have been fixed
Replacement set ??? did you retun the original set ??? Are the arms I've got crap ???
Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2003 7:26 am
by hypo
suprasurf wrote:hypolux wrote:well aparently they new batches have been rectified but i am still waiting on my replacement set yet so i cant confirm this but Rhino assuress me that they have been fixed
Replacement set ??? did you retun the original set ??? Are the arms I've got crap ???
no i havent sent them back not untill i get my new set. and the arms u have may have the same prob as mine, the tie rod end taper is toooo deep and wen u put the tie rod ends in it flatens out the rubber boot that much it splits very easily then the ball joint is open 2 water and crap and chews out very fast. i am bout 2 buy my 3rd set since fitting my arms 6 months ago.
Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2003 8:03 am
by suprasurf
hypolux wrote:no i havent sent them back not untill i get my new set. and the arms u have may have the same prob as mine, the tie rod end taper is toooo deep and wen u put the tie rod ends in it flatens out the rubber boot that much it splits very easily then the ball joint is open 2 water and crap and chews out very fast. i am bout 2 buy my 3rd set since fitting my arms 6 months ago.
Rather than ship arms back and forth, I'll get mine machined down a little on the top flat and use the factory hilux ball joints and tie rod .... sound like a plan ???
Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2003 2:30 pm
by bj on roids
Is there a recall? Are there any model numbers cast into them? I thought each one was individually analysed? Before what purchase date were the arms manufactured wrong? Having got one of the first sets... Mine would surely be the older model right? So can I return mine for a new set?
Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2003 3:19 pm
by spazbot
i dunno
im not sure what the deal with them is ?
maybee give em a call and find out
Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2003 6:40 pm
by hophoar
Got my arms just before Xmas and so far havent had any problems with the tierod ends, although I wasn't happy with how the tapers were machined for the cone washers.
John
Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2003 9:20 pm
by hypo
suprasurf wrote:hypolux wrote:no i havent sent them back not untill i get my new set. and the arms u have may have the same prob as mine, the tie rod end taper is toooo deep and wen u put the tie rod ends in it flatens out the rubber boot that much it splits very easily then the ball joint is open 2 water and crap and chews out very fast. i am bout 2 buy my 3rd set since fitting my arms 6 months ago.
Rather than ship arms back and forth, I'll get mine machined down a little on the top flat and use the factory hilux ball joints and tie rod .... sound like a plan ???
i was gunna do that but i aint paying that much 4 a product that dont work
Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2003 9:26 pm
by hypo
hophoar wrote:Got my arms just before Xmas and so far havent had any problems with the tierod ends, although I wasn't happy with how the tapers were machined for the cone washers.
John
yeah mine r not that flash either
Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2003 6:21 pm
by NICK
i have a set of Sky arms, they are a low clearance short arm and looking at them off the car they look as though they will just clear a 4 leaf pack. They have shit all lift in them so lets hope they work.
NICK
Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2003 6:28 pm
by spazbot
did you have them custom cut ?
or did you just get yanky ones