Outer Limits 4x4 Board

Hey all
I'm driving up to wedge island soon for the wkend, which is a reasonable beach drive in terms of distance, a few patches of it get a bit hairy.

Anyways, I have a totally stock NT zook with 2" and 30" muddies on it. I have my old set of 27" ATs in the shed.

I was considering putting my smaller tyres back on - the muddies are monoforms and have pretty thick sidewalls that don't bag out too well unless you let them down to ~8psi. And the car is noticably slower on road, so I'll have lost a little wheelspeed. I've never really driven much on the beach...
So which tyre do you guys think I'm best off with?

leave the muddies on... run them at 16 psi.. and since a zook is light.. it should have no probs gettin thru the sand..

remember.. in the sand.. momentum is your friend

I agree, I've driven beaches on both muddies, and all terrains, and unless your trying to do steep dune climbs, or spraying your mates with big rooster tails of sand... there isn't too much difference. Just keep your speed/momentum constant and you'll have no troubles...... zooks love the sand anyway.

GQ wrote:leave the muddies on... run them at 16 psi.. and since a zook is light.. it should have no probs gettin thru the sand..

remember.. in the sand.. momentum is your friend

the tire placeard on zook recomends 20psi for road

try 10 atleast

like evryone else said leave the muddies on and @10 psi u wil drive rings around evryone anyway, and in 2 wheel drive

well dude i will go the other way and say i would go smaller A/Ts

I found on my zook the original tyres seemed to go better i think cos it could rev out easier and bag well.

and also i had a re-tread style monowhatever muddy shiat itself after being deflated on the beach, it bubbled.

OldGold wrote:Hey all
I'm driving up to wedge island soon for the wkend, which is a reasonable beach drive in terms of distance, a few patches of it get a bit hairy.

Anyways, I have a totally stock NT zook with 2" and 30" muddies on it. I have my old set of 27" ATs in the shed.

I was considering putting my smaller tyres back on - the muddies are monoforms and have pretty thick sidewalls that don't bag out too well unless you let them down to ~8psi. And the car is noticably slower on road, so I'll have lost a little wheelspeed. I've never really driven much on the beach...
So which tyre do you guys think I'm best off with?

Neil I have done a few trips with exactly what you are saying, and truthfully if its for a drive to the wedge, then I say go back to standard. If you had gearing then the mudders would be okay, but without it your better off on the standard tires.

Trust me I tested this heaps with my old setup with 29" mudders!

+ way better fuel economy

He Oldgold,

I did the trip on easter wkend. 31's rocked. aird them down to 5psi at lancelin and hit the track the fist bit then dropped onto the beach past the heads.(it was not passable before this due to the beach erosion from the storms) I did it mostly in 2wd or 4lo 3rd gear for the boggy bits.

I drive on the beach all the time.

cheers

i went to wedge about a week a go on the bfg's i got off Dewse,

had them on 10psi all the way,leave good roosters in 2wd too.
i thought they were better than my a/t's


have a look at my picshttp://imageevent.com/evlhilux/lancelin2005

have run the monoforms on a patrol at 8psi on stockton several times with no probs

if you go into wedge you might need mudders because some of the puddles were over my head lights.

i ran my 32's on the beach at about 14psi.. standard gearing.. mine are actualy remoulds not retreds...
was farking awfull
couldnt get out of about 3rd low.. no power shit as..
would have been better off on standard tires.. but since you are only runnin 30's u should be kewl.
Phil

Either will be fine.
Zooks are great on the sand!
Tyre pressures make all the differance!!!
Run 10psi as a starting point.
You can go lower especialy if you have tyres that are a bit stiff.
Just remember not to go too stupid with sharp cornering (ie donuts ) and you will be fine at around 8psi.
Paul.

I think I might just go with the ATs because I don't really trust a retread on low pressures and high speeds.
If I can get a 1lt case before then, I will keep the muddies on.

hey oldgold i got to wedge in about 15minutes along the beach,
drove near the water it was rock hard.sat on about 80km at on point, there is a few spots where you have to go up high and that is about it.

just check the tide before you go.

OldGold wrote:I think I might just go with the ATs because I don't really trust a retread on low pressures and high speeds.
If I can get a 1lt case before then, I will keep the muddies on.

They'll be fine, mine have been.

have fun. Some good sand driving behind wedge township.

cheers

Thanks for the tips guys!
I don't think the choice is one between black and white, I don't think it'll make a massive difference but I thought I'd ask anyways

Geez you guys are talkin some low pressures! Specilally for a Zook Whats the sand made out of down there!

Where is wedge point? Is it even down....

i have had a/t's down to 8psi with 4 blokes pushing my zook just to get off the beach..,..very soft at times and others i have seen ea falcons cruize passed.

wedge is passed lancelin, a small cray fishing comminuty.and squatters

jumankum wrote:Geez you guys are talkin some low pressures! Specilally for a Zook

Because the zooks are so light the tyres dont bag as much.
Also lower pressures make the ride a little more bareable on bumpy sand tracks.

jumankum wrote:Geez you guys are talkin some low pressures! Specilally for a Zook Whats the sand made out of down there!

Where is wedge point? Is it even down....

I have mine down to 4psi a couple of times. bags out a big but not too much. u can run 0psi with stiffer tyres ok. I have on 1 tyre and did not really notice it for a while.

Wedge has spooky sand dunes where one spot is hard enough to drive on top and the other foot is 1ft under.

cheers

Gday Oldie,

We've done the Wedge Trip a couple of times and the sand is pretty boggy, but if you rip into it fast enough you plough right through no problems. We did the whole trip once with 40psi all round and 2WD in the pajero, I wouldnt recommend it but it was getting a bit late on that occasion. You'd flog along hit a soft patch, drop a cog and plant it, was pretty fun.

As for tyres, I'd go with whatever lets you rev the crapper out of it the easiest, so that would be the smaller sized ATs.

Have fun ey!

Southie old mate, good to hear from you again
I'm trying to line up a 1lt case before then... but I'm not sure it's going to happen so I think the ATs will go on, if anything just to make the road journey a little nicer.
Gunna pull a coupla load leafs off tomorrow (if I have time) and try track down some longer shocks later on just to make it a little scarier
Goin up for the long wkend, bulk bundy will guarantee a good time

Yeah man, if you get bogged and no one comes along, you always have your bundy to keep you happy!

Its a pretty quick trip up to the Wedge tracks, so tyre size shouldnt make too much of a difference to how you go along the road, its pretty good tar! with that said theres a few decent looooong inclines that the diesel boys I know have to pluck 3rd gear and crawl up, pajero stays in 5th and eats the road