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rear tow hooks

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 9:05 pm
by Screwy
guys,

just wondering whether these M20 tow hook eyelet would be strong enough for comp recovery use.....

pulled them off an A/C package unit they used them to lift the machine to the roof......

cheers

Screwy

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 9:41 pm
by Cossie
are they rated?

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 10:05 pm
by marin
Cossie wrote:are they rated?
They had better bloody be, if they were used to lift an aircon unit onto a roof!!!

marin

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 1:22 am
by sierrajim
Would you not be better with an actual recovery hook rather than an eyelet?

The hook will be much quicker to use being that you do not need a shackle.

Like these

http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/PHP_Modul ... p?id=16156

Or even the ones with the small strap retainer clip, have these on the other end of my rig.

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 3:35 pm
by ozy1
Jeff there has been talk about these before, and to get an eylet rated sufficintly for recovery, they would be huge, im also prettyy sure they are only meant for lifting, anf not designed for the intial force of a snatch strap, they are also not as strong if you need to be pulled from an angle,

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 4:01 pm
by hypo
yeah Shawn yer right mate, these r only designed to b pulled on as ia lifting point, wen pulled from an angle they become less than half as strong, and if u r snatching at and angle look out, i have seen them used lots of times but never actually seen them in use(as in a recovery situation) but yeah id advise against putting them on a nissan coz it will get stuck all the time and u need some really good recovery points :finger: that will handle the frequent use that yours will get

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 6:00 pm
by Screwy
HYPO_ZOOK wrote:yeah Shawn yer right mate, these r only designed to b pulled on as ia lifting point, wen pulled from an angle they become less than half as strong, and if u r snatching at and angle look out, i have seen them used lots of times but never actually seen them in use(as in a recovery situation) but yeah id advise against putting them on a nissan coz it will get stuck all the time and u need some really good recovery points :finger: that will handle the frequent use that yours will get
You wish :finger:

sweet, cheers guys, im sure they will come in handy somewhere ;)

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 6:00 pm
by Davidh
I think i've read or heard somewhere that CCDA won't allow them as recovery points.

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 7:13 pm
by hypo
Screwy_ScrewBall wrote:
HYPO_ZOOK wrote:yeah Shawn yer right mate, these r only designed to b pulled on as ia lifting point, wen pulled from an angle they become less than half as strong, and if u r snatching at and angle look out, i have seen them used lots of times but never actually seen them in use(as in a recovery situation) but yeah id advise against putting them on a nissan coz it will get stuck all the time and u need some really good recovery points :finger: that will handle the frequent use that yours will get
You wish :finger:

sweet, cheers guys, im sure they will come in handy somewhere ;)
mount them on the tray somewhere and use them as tie down points :idea:

Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2005 7:48 am
by Micka
Try going out to your local truck wreckers and take the hooks off some wrecks. Any of the old tippers or prime movers have MASSIVE hooks that are used to pull them out of bogs.

Seen it done lots with concrete trucks - fully loaded they are around 25 tonne - and they rig up a big-arse chain and take off like a snatch recovery :shock: . The noise as the chain whips is huge.

They would only charge about $10 for them too. ;)

Micka

Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2005 5:32 pm
by ditch
sierrajim wrote:Would you not be better with an actual recovery hook rather than an eyelet?

The hook will be much quicker to use being that you do not need a shackle.

Like these

http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/PHP_Modul ... p?id=16156

Or even the ones with the small strap retainer clip, have these on the other end of my rig.
Man where can I pick up a couple of those hooks? Is it strong enough just having them bolted to the chassis?

Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2005 10:25 pm
by Bluefreak
I've got similar eye bolts on my ARB rear step, according to the glossy that came with it, they are recovery points...

Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2005 7:51 pm
by derelict_frog
$20 - $40 each from a 4wd shop, they are very strong, i have 2 bolted onto the front of my chassis, just need to buy some more for the back now.

The strap retainer clip comes with the hooks new, but i didnt put them on as most times i get stuck it will be in deep mud so u dont want to be trying to get a strap over that as well and searching around in the mud over your bonnet........

ditch wrote:
sierrajim wrote:Would you not be better with an actual recovery hook rather than an eyelet?

The hook will be much quicker to use being that you do not need a shackle.

Like these

http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/PHP_Modul ... p?id=16156

Or even the ones with the small strap retainer clip, have these on the other end of my rig.
Man where can I pick up a couple of those hooks? Is it strong enough just having them bolted to the chassis?

Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2005 7:56 pm
by runnin4life
derelict_frog wrote:but i didnt put them on as most times i get stuck it will be in deep mud so u dont want to be trying to get a strap over that as well and searching around in the mud over your bonnet........
you could avoid this by putting the strap onb before going through and just have it inside your door or in your window and if you have the clip thing you dont have to worry about it coming off while going through the mud

Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2005 8:14 pm
by derelict_frog
Sif be that prepared lol

u get the inside of your car covered with mud, more likey wrap it round the bull bar...

Not a bad idea, but what if u need it on the back of the car? u need to unhook it from the front and put it on the back.....

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 12:10 pm
by ditch
Where did you get yours from derelict?