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mongrels
Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2005 6:27 pm
by flynn
wat do you think of mongrels??? im thinkin 32"
how long do they last???
wats the stats???
cheers
Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2005 6:45 pm
by MY45
Did you have a search flynn?
Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2005 6:49 pm
by flynn
is there a quicker way than searchin every page???
is there some other way???
plz point me in the right direction coz i have no idea
Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2005 6:52 pm
by flynn
ohh hey look up there a search button sorry never really took the time to look around. hehe sorry

Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2005 7:04 pm
by MY45
Its quite hard to find exactly what your looking for but if you choose "search for all terms" your results will be more precise.
Good luck with it

Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2005 7:17 pm
by RockyF75
http://www.motorway-tyres.com.au/p300.htm#254
Motorway tyres product page, has mongrels on em, might help, can alos ring the company. I am currently running Ground Hogs, wich are a couple of tyres up the page from mongrels, had em on since early march i think, and have already worn about halfway

, i assume the mongrels are retreads/remoulds too??
On that note, whats the diff with Monoform, Remould, and Retread??
Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2005 7:46 pm
by MY45
RockyF70 wrote:http://www.motorway-tyres.com.au/p300.htm#254
Motorway tyres product page, has mongrels on em, might help, can alos ring the company. I am currently running Ground Hogs, wich are a couple of tyres up the page from mongrels, had em on since early march i think, and have already worn about halfway

, i assume the mongrels are retreads/remoulds too??
On that note, whats the diff with Monoform, Remould, and Retread??
You should also refer to my 1st post

Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2005 7:46 pm
by derelict_frog
I have them, they are awesome in mud.
Make a lot of noise on the road, should last ages on the zook using them only as offroad tyres.
Monoform, Remould, and Retread??
Of there site, remmeber reading it a while ago:
MONOFORM
The "Monoform" is a registered product of Motorway Tyres and is our premium grade of remanufactured product.
The tyre is retreaded bead-to-bead (ie both the Tread and the Sidewall have new rubber). Some people argue this gives the Sidewall a greater level of protection.
The very best of raw materials are sourced world wide and when combined with the highest grade of tyre casings available, this results in a final product that is not only attractive but can boast exceptional performance.
The Monoform is available in our Passenger, 4WD and Light Commercial product ranges.
REMOULD
A "Remould" is an appealling bead-to-bead remanufactured tyre(ie both the Tread and Sidewalls have new rubber). Our Remould range is produced using our standard grade of tread rubber and competitively priced for the discerning consumer.
RETREAD
A "Retread" tyre is retreaded from shoulder-to-shoulder (ie Tread area only) and is produced with our standard grade of tread compound.
Retread is cheaper than remold, so i got that.
$145 each if u were wondering...
Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2005 7:47 pm
by flynn
k after readin the threads i just need to know
how long can they last and hows the wearing???
Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2005 7:52 pm
by Bad JuJu
My 32x10.5R15 mongrels have been on my zook for 15months now, they have stood upto a lot of abuse, some slices in the lugs but no chipping or tearing and they are wearing well and on 7 inch rims I can air down to 7psi and have not lost 1 off the rim yet.
Great for mud, snow, gravel, anything soft and loose.
They suck (compared to mtr's or most other $300/corner tyre) on higher traction surfaces like rocks and they are speed limited to 120km/h.
When new driving on the wet road was real exciting but since the hard cured skin has worn off i am surprised how good they are in the wet.
My street pressure is 22 psi anything more and the ride gets quite rough in the zook and it only runs on the center 2 circumferal lugs in the center of the tyre
I like them for what they are and would get them again.
Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2005 8:02 pm
by RockyF75
Bad Juju - Is your zuke a daily driver? How many k's would u do a year roughly? And may i ask what you paid for em?
Sorry for the hijack flynn but i may want to get these oneday if the wear aint too bad

... they very similar tread to centipeded arent they?
And My45 - askin again is sooooo much easier than searchin through 5 threads with 2-3 pages each

Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2005 8:03 pm
by derelict_frog
Well they seem to wear pretty quick if u drive about on them for a year etc., and from what i have seen the middle and side lugs wear evenly, not sure if the noise will get more or less though :/
There prolly not designed for a road tyre, just a cheap simex ET retread..
Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2005 8:14 pm
by Bad JuJu
My zook is a 50% of the time a daily driver. It shares the duties with a GU patrol, It has done 15000 since the tyres were added and has used up 2-3 mm of tread. I crawl over most obsticals with dif locks and low gearing and try not to generate wheel spin on the more abrasive surfaces like rocks, this probably helps with tire life (and CV's too).
I wouldnt expect them to last real long pushed with either weight or power -- but what the hell I drive a zook and in std form has neither and im a cheap bastard to boot.
I got mine at an insane price of $100 for all 5 monoforms, just happened to be in the right place at the right time. I think they are normally $180 each or somthing like that. The remoulds are about $145 and the retreads $110-ish.
Even if I paied full price I would be happy.
Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2005 8:20 pm
by RockyF75
$100 for 5

....*mutter*
lucky bastard 
Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2005 8:32 pm
by Bad JuJu
My mongrels@15000kms
Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 12:27 pm
by flynn
so i take it they're good to get
i gather if they go well on a suzi they would be good on my rocky.
Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 12:33 pm
by Red_Zook
yep good tires on light trucks.
my mate has the metric equivelent to 34's on 16inch rims! they are doing him realy well on a 2.8 dcab lux!
we love em down here. im up for a new set of shoes.. conidering the hell i give mine it is a toss up between claw or mongrel! leaning towards claw tho!
Phil
Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 12:33 pm
by Tiny
I ran the motorway muddies and was prettty happy with the wear etc, so I now stock the motorway mongrels and muddies. Mongrels in the 32.whatever sell for$180ea mark I do them for $165.00ea
Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 5:31 pm
by flynn
am i likely to fit 32" mongrels under my stock rock or am i going to have to lift it 1st???
Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 5:41 pm
by derelict_frog
I have 2" body, 2" extended shackles and they are on 15x18 offset rims so they dont touch the springs but they rub on the front when articulating (the rear of the arch..) ... need to go a bit higher i rekon, might need a spring lift too...
Attached a pic, they sit a fair way back in the arches, so higher springs should take it lower down and a bit further forward.
Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 9:30 pm
by Bad JuJu
I have 2" body lift, 1.5" springs and revolver shackles front and rear.
I catch the plastic rear corners on the std rear bar slightly at full stuff, the front is fine clearsthe firewall by 15mm and everything else by 5mm with a 20mm bump stop extention except the springs.
I have bashed the firewall back a little to help with the clearence.
I just catch the springs on full lock and full stuff on the front.
Here is some pics of my junk, diagonal wheels up wheelramps with a besablock under the wheelramp.
I need longer shocks than the std Jeep TJ ones fitted at the moment
Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2005 12:27 pm
by mkpatrol
MY45 wrote:Its quite hard to find exactly what your looking for but if you choose "search for all terms" your results will be more precise.
Good luck with it

Well done MY45, you helped a Noob with the search without being a knob about it, nice to see.

Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2005 4:48 pm
by runnin4life
woops
elliot
Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2005 5:07 pm
by runnin4life
woops again
Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2005 5:07 pm
by runnin4life
and again
Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2005 5:26 pm
by runnin4life
does any one know the price of those mongrel 31's in the mono form and the retreads
well im really just wondering what people payed for them
cheers
elliot
Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2005 5:38 pm
by christover1
runnin4life wrote:does any one know the price of those mongrel 31's in the mono form and the retreads
well im really just wondering what people payed for them
cheers
elliot
I use the Mongrel retreads in 31's. I paid $155 fitted and balanced.
Was quoted about $180 for remoulds/monoforms, but at that stage, were only one sided. I prefer the softer sidewalls of retreads.
Had them around 11 months, still going well. I love em to death, but would still recommend "real" simex tyres if you can afford them
christover
Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2005 6:41 pm
by RockyF75
christover1 wrote:runnin4life wrote:does any one know the price of those mongrel 31's in the mono form and the retreads
well im really just wondering what people payed for them
cheers
elliot
I use the Mongrel retreads in 31's. I paid $155 fitted and balanced.
Was quoted about $180 for remoulds/monoforms, but at that stage, were only one sided. I prefer the softer sidewalls of retreads.
Had them around 11 months, still going well. I love em to death, but would still recommend "real" simex tyres if you can afford them
christover
How much lift u got? Any scrubing on full lock and/or travel?.... i could 'search' in members section, butttt

Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 8:19 am
by mkpatrol
runnin4life wrote:does any one know the price of those mongrel 31's in the mono form and the retreads
well im really just wondering what people payed for them
cheers
elliot
I put the mud terrain RETREAD on my old MK for a 95 bucks each. Hat to put 125 grams of weight on one on them though

, I did about 25,000k's on it before I sold it & they never gave any problems with shaking or separation. There were numerous trips to the coast in that time including a coubple towing a 16 ft boat.
If I had that sort of vehicel again which was most comfotable at 100 max I would buy them again. When I sold the truck they were only about 1/4 worn.
Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 9:35 am
by christover1
RockyF70 wrote:
How much lift u got? Any scrubing on full lock and/or travel?.... i could 'search' in members section, butttt

that wouldn't help, never got around to putting anything in members.
I have 2"/50mm body lift.
40mm OME suspenson.
Slightly longer shackles.
front diff forward 22mm
rims are offset 60mm or so (not sure I bought them done)
And front wheel arches are trimmed, with a bit of bashing of seems etc.
front bumpstops extended by 20mm.
with this setup there is no scrubbing at all.
With standard springs(=less travel) there would be less rubbings.
christover