Outer Limits 4x4 Board

Posted: **Mon Jul 14, 2003 10:56 pm**

If you had the choice of Auto or Manual for rockcrawling what would you use and why :?:

Any opinions appreciated.

Posted: **Tue Jul 15, 2003 7:17 am**

auto for uphill and manual for downhill.

If I was a female :lol:

auto

Posted: **Tue Jul 15, 2003 8:45 am**

I agree mostly with BJ - autos rock on uphills but aren't as good as manual downhills although this can be improved.
I've recently converted to auto and wouldn't go back.

Posted: **Tue Jul 15, 2003 8:54 am**

I want auto :cool:

- how can I put one behind a 253 in a shorty ?

Posted: **Tue Jul 15, 2003 9:03 am**

auto for a competition truck - as it frees you from having to worry about gears when you're trying to pick the right line under the clock, easier for crawling and climbing, looks trick with a nice shifter.

manual for a trail rig - due to versatility, engine braking, ability to push start, cheaper cost, also lets you get more out of your engine, looks great with dual transfer case levers and line brake levers.

Posted: **Tue Jul 15, 2003 11:01 am**

autos can be modified with lock up converters, gives an ok hill decent engine braking.. also if you have decent low gearing, auto will be better down hills...me want an auto, but finding suitable affordable one fer a zook aint simple..I read somewhere that severe side angles can move fluid and lose drive??????? they do need good cooling to function. the torque coverter gives a bit more variable gearing. horses for courses, christover(will probly need auto medically soon)

Posted: **Tue Jul 15, 2003 11:06 am**

I'd love to get an auto for mine for a number of reasons. I'm lazy :lol:

, less strain on the drivetrain as the auto will "take up" some of the shock loading, with the low gearing I alrady have (6:1 tcase) the downhill issue isn't as much of a concern.

Posted: **Tue Jul 15, 2003 11:13 am**

Go the auto. Up Hill especially. If you have enough reduction & de-stall your converter, down hill braking is as good as a manual.

Pete

Posted: **Tue Jul 15, 2003 4:38 pm**

auto for sure....... diff ratios to sort out downhill

sit back, relax and take in a bit of scenary :lol:

Posted: **Tue Jul 15, 2003 7:54 pm**

Auto, less strain on the driveline, much less driveline snatch, can rock vehicle over obstacles without stalling, no clutch to fry, much less stall-able than a stick (can crawl just off idle) much better climbing ability.
The only advantage a stick has is downhill due to the deeper reduction which is usually due to the numerically higher 1st gear rather than the low range t/case ratio.
An auto with low range gears is king

Posted: **Wed Jul 16, 2003 12:04 am**

Thanks for the replys and opinions guys

Auto it is :cool:

Posted: **Wed Jul 16, 2003 6:58 am**

Real men drive manuals but.... :cool:

Posted: **Wed Jul 16, 2003 12:42 pm**

No real men here!!

Posted: **Wed Jul 16, 2003 6:19 pm**

I am not being different, but i like manuals!

For STEEP climbs when its on the point of going over backwards it is a lot easier and quicker just to hit the clutch and you should save it!

With the auto you have to be pretty quick to react and get it into reverse or nuetral!

I also like driving a manual, it requires MORE work (and more skill).

Posted: **Wed Jul 16, 2003 7:19 pm**

I used to think manuals only in a 4wd as can be started by pushing if your starter packs it in. After driving a mates auto Rangie with a 308 and a couple of TDI Discos I would now have an auto in my next 4wd or if the 5spd in my Rangie dies. Maybe just a matter of carrying a spare starter for those remote trips.