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Are crawler gears or dual transfer/c always worth it? IE if you are running a 6.5l V8 desiel, when would you need to use the super low gears in a non comp 4b?

Nev62 wrote:Are crawler gears or dual transfer/c always worth it? IE if you are running a 6.5l V8 desiel, when would you need to use the super low gears in a non comp 4b?

Well...if you decide to piss off those puny little tyres and fit some 35" or bigger, then you might find the crawler/reduction gears very handy when you are descending that drop over a rock ledge, or climbing a hill that you need to go up slowly, so you don't break stuff.

Micka

they are always worth it ... spesh when u have bigger tyres

even if u have small .. it gives u greater control over the car
the slower u spin ur tyres the more traction

if u need to go faster pick another gear ... or pick high range

its all in your own driving style ... i love my crawler gears

Nev62 wrote:Are crawler gears or dual transfer/c always worth it? IE if you are running a 6.5l V8 desiel, when would you need to use the super low gears in a non comp 4b?

depends on what sort of wheeling you do. Firetrails and crap like that no it wouldnt be worth it.

I have just fitted a set of Gear Master gears to a GU and it has transformed the vehicle. Before they were fitted low first on the step rocky tracks was to high and had to apply the brakes to control it. Now I put it in low first and virtually just steer the thing no brakes required, to have a greater selection of gears for up and down is fantastic.

IMO money well spent.

The Mark's gears are going to my next major purchase

The mav' runs away on rocks compared with vehicles with 'em. If driving rocks, I want as slow as possible. As someone once said, this is the only sport that you spend $$ to go slower!!

Regards

Ok, to slew this thread sideways a tad, so go slow is good, is it worth the extra $$ to do a dual transfer/c or just a gear set. Thinking maybe it would be better for the greater selection of duals but at three times the cost of a gear set (according to Marks prices)???

question is it for your own car ,the ford raider?

Tidy42 wrote:question is it for your own car ,the ford raider?

Nah, for a yota FJ62

imo depends on the end result. If you get duels will the gearing be as slow as if you had just gone gears?

Duals are a lot of hassles... and the cost in custom driveshafts etc will at least pish them up to a rockhopper set.


The only benefit really comes in with the switchability.

With a rock hopper in one the duals finally make real sense - but having 4 different low range combos can be a bit mindboggling.... you'd start thinking should I have been in 4th low low, or 2nd low/high, or 3rd high/low or first high/high.

I got quoted $1200 just to buy the gears and another $600 to put them in, is that a normal sort of price?
91" Luxy

yeah i'm tryin to do as much research about this topic as i can too. got a gq petrol with 35's and have fun hitting challenging creek beds. how many different brands are there? whose the best to choose? who do i contact to fit em up in brisbane?

I've got duals in my Hilux. For me the main benefit of duals is I can cruise along most tracks in normal low range, and still get up to a reasonable speed. I then engage low-low when I get to something hard.

I think the only disadvantage of crawler gears is you might find the gap between high range and low range too big for cruising along bush tracks.

If I were to do it again, I'd probably just install crawler gears, because it would be simpler.

Scott wrote:I've got duals in my Hilux. For me the main benefit of duals is I can cruise along most tracks in normal low range, and still get up to a reasonable speed. I then engage low-low when I get to something hard.

I think the only disadvantage of crawler gears is you might find the gap between high range and low range too big for cruising along bush tracks.

If I were to do it again, I'd probably just install crawler gears, because it would be simpler.

I noticed the same thing in my sierra (6.1 transfer, 4.6 diff 36" tyres). Low range was just too low and high was a little too high. I do know that you can just change up gears but as you change up gears they just get weaker.

With duals most high range is 1:1 therefore it makes no difference if you're in high/low or low/high. Dual Lux cases with reduction gearing in one case would possibly be of benifit.

Depending on the terrain that you drive as to weather gearing is worthwhile. The Sierra was driven in low 3rd most of the time.

Nev62 wrote:

Tidy42 wrote:question is it for your own car ,the ford raider?

Nah, for a yota FJ62

Can Marks get dual cases for cruiser split case transfer? I thought only Marlin made these, for $3000+?

Scott wrote:I've got duals in my Hilux. For me the main benefit of duals is I can cruise along most tracks in normal low range, and still get up to a reasonable speed. I then engage low-low when I get to something hard.

I think the only disadvantage of crawler gears is you might find the gap between high range and low range too big for cruising along bush tracks.
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this is what I was thinking