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lifting old ifs 4runner
Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2005 12:50 pm
by -Mick-
How much can I expect to pay for this..... only after 2" lift. I've had a qoute of 1300 which seems really good considering it is an efs kit w/ new torsion bars, steering damper, bolts, bushes greasable hangers, big bore shocks etc
I'm not keen on winding up the front simply because the bars look OLD
I don't give a stuff about flex with this vehicle either it only ever sees the beach
What have others done for a lift
I searched but there's not much on specific kits.
Mick
Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2005 1:20 pm
by RV80
I don't think you could go wrong for 1300 bucks
Being a kit they would of down a bit of R&D, compared to getting one brand of torsion bars and another brand of springs (miss matched)..
Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2005 2:52 pm
by hophoar
What are you tryng to achieve ? If you don't care about flex as you state and are only tring to fit bigger meats on then why not bodylift it for 1/8 of the price of new torsion bars etc.
John.
Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2005 3:00 pm
by -Mick-
hophoar wrote:What are you tryng to achieve ? If you don't care about flex as you state and are only tring to fit bigger meats on then why not bodylift it for 1/8 of the price of new torsion bars etc.
John.
because I want to keep it all legal
You can get a BL approved in Qld but you have to go to the actual DOT inspection pits... not just an engineer type shop
That is the point where they try to defile your rectum
I wouldn't actually expect problems the car is pristine BUT why risk it
Suspension up to 2" needs no approval so I can just install it, tell my insurer and still be covered
I'd rather spend the other 7/8's to make my life that much easier. All that and the suspension still needs relplacing soon enough regardless
Thanks for the suggestion though
Oh and RV good point about the kit part ... it does have a warranty and that too
Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2005 9:30 pm
by Mr DJ
Hmmmmmm, have they stopped engineers approving body lifts
, I personally know of 1 guy who has had his Hilux certified by an engineer for a 2" body lift less than 12 mths ago.
Has he been ripped off ?
Where did you hear this from ?
Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 3:46 am
by Damo
-Mick- wrote: You can get a BL approved in Qld but you have to go to the actual DOT inspection pits... not just an engineer type shop
You sure about the pits thing?
I sent an application for approval of my 2" body lift in writing to DOT. They sent me back an "approval in principal". Basically I have to take it to an approved officer and have them inspect the quality of the work, if that guy is happy it's all good.
I can't recall anywhere being told it had to be inspected by DOT themselves.
Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 10:51 am
by -Mick-
Dougster and Damo my info does come from some sources I trust
BUT its still 2nd hand info no matter what the source is
I would LOVE to be wrong
I'll make a call to the shop I go to for approvals tomorrow and check for myself.
Damo fix that zook so we can see who approves the BL
Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 5:38 pm
by Utemad
Hi Mick,
In answer to your PM I have just gone through this process in July/August this year. What I had to do was ring the Dept of Transport modifications guys (number is in white pages) and they sent out an application form. You have to fill in the form and tell them of any mods already done. Whether they need approval (like engine swaps) or not (like 2in suspension). However I just listed everything as standard to save time filling out the form. You then tell them how you are going to do the body lift. So I just told them that I was using 60mmx43mm aluminium blocks with high tensile bolts. You then post this to the address on the form and they send you a conditional approval form or something like that which the inspector needs to sign. Basically it is approved on the condition it passes a DOT pit inspection. The conditional approval letter stuff took me about a week to get. When I went to the pits for the inspection (took me 3 weeks to get an inspection due to being booked out) it passed first go. My vehicle is a 1997 Rodeo. The only thing I did in preparation for the inspection was to put the factory wheels/tyres back on and steam clean the undercarriage to remove the traces of oil leaks. I went to the Virginia inspection place and the DOT inspectors were great guys. They all drove 4x4s (actually drove them off road not just to work)
So all in all it cost me $45 for the blocks, $45 for the bolts and $55 for the inspection.
Having said that I've done my suspension too. I wound my front T-bars up and fitted low profile bump stops and rear leaf springs from an 89 Jackaroo. This gave me about 30mm lift after settling. I have stock rear shocks and OME heavy duty fronts (had bar and winch before body lift). All up this cost me $80ish for the rear leafs and low profile bump stops plus I think $260 for both front shocks (shocks bought ages before lift). So this isn't an expensive option either if you look around at factory available alternatives from wreckers. If you want to actually replace your torsion bars then if your Forerunner is petrol then you can fit stock diesel ones. They are a heavier duty T-bar than the petrol and only cost about $80ea at a wrecker (for Isuzu anyway).
I've emailed you the form you need to fill out and send to the DOT if you do the body lift.
Hope this all helps.