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One for the purists

Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 8:13 pm
by cloughy
Was just reading on another forum someone wanting to put TOJO motor in a series LR. And unfairly being slandered on by the purists as land rover themselves are pretty good at using other makes motors themselves buick isuzu etc.

My question is what sort of interesting engine conversions have you seen and in which rover. i'll start of on a few

I myself have a 5.0 Windsor from an EB falcon a few mates have 318 mopar another a 3.5 with a rootes blower.all in 2 door RR's

Now the most interesting one was a 4 door i seen for sale about 2 years ago with a 2.4 TOJO surf motor. but atleast he was replacing it with an 89 vogue with a td5


Thanks for the replies

Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 8:19 pm
by Loanrangie
There was an electric powered rangie on UK ebay for sale, now a 3.5 would be like a big block compared to that !

Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 8:57 pm
by andrew e
almost everything has gone under the bonnets of rovers over the years, but the conversions i can think of off the top of my head are -

isuzu 4bd1 and 6bd1, chev small block and diesel v8s, ford small block v8s, chev v6, valiant 6 (hemi, not slant), chrysler small and big block, holden 6 (straight and v6), and v8, ford 6 (2v, cross flow, and capri v6), p76, jag 6 (in a 80 inch series 1!), toyota 3b,2.4T, 1HZ, 4 litre lexus, nissan sd33, pirkins diesels, iveco 2.8t.......will add more as i remember.

Andrew

Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 9:23 pm
by cloughy
Funny the one you say about the val stuff. my mates old man now has 318 mopar in RR or has done for 15 years used to have a series LR and put a slant in back in about 1968, would of been impressive at the time, sure would of smoked an original LR. then followed by a LWB which got a 265 in the early 70's

Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 9:47 pm
by Slunnie
My IIa shorty had a Datsun SD30 under the bonnet, now has a Rover V8/LT95. I think Jap motors are a great conversion idea, they're bloody good motors generally, the mating to gearboxs + transfers and making it fit that can be the pain. Even LR have used Isuzu motors.

Re: 83 RR with surf diesel Toymota.

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 2:50 pm
by westall1
Hi Cloughy A chap up our way ( I'm from T'gon ) the chap that owns the Morwell indoor go-karts sold a 1983 RR about 2 months for about $1400 with a toymota diesel out of a surf in it . I went to have a look at it but it was sold. He told me he fabricated the adapter and mounts himself.

Just thought you'd like to know.

I would like to fit into my 2 door RR a 302 Windsor carb. model and C4 but I would like to bolt it up to my LT230 t/case . Similar to the 727TF trans.
I presently have a 3.5 stroked to 4.2 with 727TF/lt230 T/case.

Unfortunately I have not been able to find an adapter. I don't wont to go with the cut 95 trans. or the borg.w. with hollowed 95. I have tried Hadfield ,dellow, and even seaton eng. in WA I was told about. But no luck . I am hoping to get an adapter and spud shaft and machine the trans output shaft to suit. to bolt up.

Aahh well just keep dreaming and looking around.
cheers
Graham

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 5:24 pm
by Dozoor
Sounds easy to me ,

Just leave the 727 in and get windsor to 727 , use a mopar housing on the 727 ,

Castelmiam Rod shop has the profile in his pute i think ;)




Now Turn away purists and i,ll introduce him to the MANGE ROVER :P


Mine started as an 84 4door RR , ended with a 3.8 comadore V6 th700,
lt230 , Then the body was swaped for a 90 suzuki sierra. ;)

hidous as it sounds , it more hidous to the eye ! :)

Larry

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 6:58 pm
by Loanrangie
[quote="Dozoor"]Sounds easy to me ,

Just leave the 727 in and get windsor to 727 , use a mopar housing on the 727 ,

Castelmiam Rod shop has the profile in his pute i think ;) /quote]

Problem is the 727 in the rangie is not a standard chrysler case, you would need to get a 727 to windsor adapter plate and fit a stock 727 with the rover 727 extension housing.

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 7:46 pm
by cloughy
I seen that some one as mentioned in my first post, he'd even done the canning in it.

you couldn't use the chrysler 727 as the one rover uses is AMC and lays over on an angle of about 15 degrees hence it would put the motor on an angle, slant 302 ha ha.

the best option would be to machine an adaptor from rover 727 to windsor and gain the extra strengh of the 727.the clutches in the C4 C9 C10 etc actually fall through the hole in the centre of the 727 ones. just gives you an idea of how much stronger they are.

I wouldn't have any issues with the early ritter conversion cut down LT95 C9 (C4) combo as the transfer are alot stronger than most people will have you believe and gives you the advantage on using ford bellhousing starter torque conv. etc but thats just my thoughts

Send me a PM and i'll give you some details if you'd like to have a boe peep, although its not runnign at the moment as i just had twin turbo's on it but am now opting for more cubes.

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 8:04 pm
by mopar rangie
the 727 case used by rover is spun about 10% so a normal adaptor plate will not do.the clutch pack on the 727 is much larger than the ford boxers that were used by mobs thd did the ford box set ups.with a bit of work the clutch pack of the 727s can be uprated to the big block set up.very easy to do and dont cost much at all.

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 8:05 pm
by 6.5 rangie
I've got the ritter cut down LT95 trans case with a T700 in front of it and a 6.5 chev desiel in front of that. Before i put this motor/trans combo in it had a T400 and holden 308 stroker in it, the purists would love it!

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 8:17 pm
by disco95
Had a seires 2 shorty ute with a slant 6 225. Used to go extremely well, would really pull up hills. Someone stole it before I got to do any really good 4bying in it though.
My Dad had one years ago that had a 215 slant in it. Unfortunately that motor had been straightened and ran like a piece of crap.

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 9:14 pm
by Loanrangie
disco95 wrote:Had a seires 2 shorty ute with a slant 6 225. Used to go extremely well, would really pull up hills. Someone stole it before I got to do any really good 4bying in it though.
My Dad had one years ago that had a 215 slant in it. Unfortunately that motor had been straightened and ran like a piece of crap.
A 215 is a straight motor not a slant, i had one in a vg val.

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 9:38 pm
by cloughy
spot on the slants were 225 the straights were 215 245 265

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 11:51 am
by zuffen
I think disco 95 means the slant engine had been stood up straight.

This was done a bit in the early days but they had oiling and fueling problems.

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 5:13 pm
by disco95
I was a kid, and a fairly young one when my old man had that LR. I know it was a slant but must be mistaken on the cubic inches, had to be a 225. That motor had been straightened and most of my memories of it were on a car trailer :roll: Nothing but trouble, even wrecked one side of the holden we had back then when the trailer it was on jacknifed into its side.

The 225 slant in my shorty was still slanted and went like a rocket (well as much like a rocket as it can in a series 2 :lol: :lol: )

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 7:24 pm
by 460cixy
s2 lwb with a ford 250xflow c4 auto and lpg. we over took an 80 series on a hill comeing back from cooma once with a loaded wagon and trailer it hauled arse and cheap to run.

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 9:20 pm
by Tasrocky
Saw an ad in the paper once for a Series 2 with a 2.5 Diesel out of a Triton

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 9:36 pm
by nairbo
Just sold my 1962 IIA R.A.M.E workshop ute

About 10 years ago I fitted a 2.6 mitsubishi canter diesel [4dr5oa] with LT 95 behind it,

heaps of torque , did 115ks on M1 going fishing big esky full of XXXX & all
the gear & fire wood for big W/E
rattley POS ran on the smell of an oily rag

Brian