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what is the law reguarding mudflaps?

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 4:41 pm
by muddymav
can any one tell me what the law is on not having mud flaps on a gq with a rear quarter chop?.i got pulled up today by the men in blue and they nearly gave me one of those sick yellow stickers that i want so much!(sarcasm) i talked them out of it but they said it was just the mudflaps mainly, i went on vicroads web site today and found this "mud flaps are not normally required on passanger type vehicles that the mud flap does not form part of the wheel guard excluding tray type vehicles,primovers and motor bikes"
could some one please clarify this! thanks :D

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 5:00 pm
by procompman
i know in qld mud flaps or gards must cover at least 3/4 of the tyre there getting hard up hear to a mate of mine got done and was fined $75 per mud flap and he had 4 mud flaps missing. :bad-words:

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 5:08 pm
by MEX
Refer to page 16. This is for QLD but I doubt if there is much diference. I've got the same modification as you and was have added mudflaps as described in the attached standard

http://www.transport.qld.gov.au/qt/LTAS ... eb2004.pdf

Cheers MEX :)

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 5:18 pm
by marin
in victoria, has to be covered down to centre of the axle height.

marin

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 5:28 pm
by Beastmavster
I believe the adr specifies that the mud flap mys be no higher than 300mm off the ground.

I am waiting to put some on mine due to a rear chop... I've mounted one side but on the driver's side there's nothing I can really mount it to until the rear bar's done.

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 5:30 pm
by Screwy
In NSW the bottom of the mudflap has to be 300mm off the ground or less.... cant be higher...

I know this cause i just did engineering a coupla months ago and it was required...

screwy

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 5:33 pm
by Tiny
Screwy_ScrewBall wrote:In NSW the bottom of the mudflap has to be 300mm off the ground or less.... cant be higher...

I know this cause i just did engineering a coupla months ago and it was required...

screwy
but yours is a ute refer first post

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 7:06 pm
by blkmav
marin wrote:in victoria, has to be covered down to centre of the axle height.

marin
I recently asked this question of an inspector and Marin is correct.

Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 8:31 am
by muttley
MEX wrote:Refer to page 16. This is for QLD but I doubt if there is much diference. I've got the same modification as you and was have added mudflaps as described in the attached standard
Cheers MEX :)
This is also ambiguous. The first sentence says "Effective mudguards must be fitted for all wheels on ALL vehicles." Yet at the bottom of the same page it says "Mudflaps are not normally required on passenger car type vehicles." :roll:

Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 9:06 am
by r0880
Meh. Do many people in QLD get hassled? Because I think they look crap, I want to see as much rubber as possible.

Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 10:09 am
by MEX
Muttley wrote:
MEX wrote:
Refer to page 16. This is for QLD but I doubt if there is much diference. I've got the same modification as you and was have added mudflaps as described in the attached standard
Cheers MEX


This is also ambiguous. The first sentence says "Effective mudguards must be fitted for all wheels on ALL vehicles." Yet at the bottom of the same page it says "Mudflaps are not normally required on passenger car type vehicles."
I hear ya.

I phone queensland transport in the end and their interpretation was that if it had mudflaps out of the factory then it still requires them after modification.

Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 11:22 am
by patrol42
This was also discussed on Overlander..

see http://forums.overlander.com.au/viewtop ... t=mudflaps

Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 11:29 am
by bazzle
blkmav wrote:
marin wrote:in victoria, has to be covered down to centre of the axle height.

marin
I recently asked this question of an inspector and Marin is correct.
300mm min from ground to end of flap. flap muat cover to sidewall. Tyre must be covered for 100 degreesfrom flap... something like that, Vic roads Engineer.
Forget the passenger vehcile ref..The vehicle are M*

Bazzle

Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 12:17 pm
by mkpatrol
blkmav wrote:
marin wrote:in victoria, has to be covered down to centre of the axle height.

marin
I recently asked this question of an inspector and Marin is correct.
This is only correct for box trailers.

Vehicles designed for off road use, the wheel guards must be no less than 300mm from the gound. Most manufactures fit mud flaps to their vehicles because designing wheel guards to meet theis rule would affect the operation of the vehicle.

ADR 42/--, Clause 14.

Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 1:54 pm
by grazza
Has anyone a good source for making some cheap mudflaps?
I have used rubber mats from Bunnings before but they dont sell them anymore ($5ea)

I know I could go to Clark Rubber but any other ideas?

thanks

Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 1:56 pm
by blkmav
Supercheap sell those rubber mats for $5

Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 2:34 pm
by MARKx4
blkmav wrote:Supercheap sell those rubber mats for $5
That would be the best bet. If you dont make them removable, at that cost you wouldnt mind it they got trashed.

Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 6:46 pm
by muddymav
hey guys,thanks for the replies.you wouldnt belive it the same cop on the same road got me again.BUT i had mudflaps altough the are made from 1.5mm thick rubber and hang down to the 300mm mark, aparently they didnt meet the requirements,they were to flimsy and didnt hold in possition when driving along,they where removalble apparently a big no no.and i had no water in my washer bottle (restriction to view) yello sticker stuck on the window :cry: once he dobe that i wasnt shy about letting him know what the cops should really be doing i there spare time than catching us comming back from a days play. oh well hope we all learn from this. cheers :)

Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 9:09 pm
by Screwy
muddymav wrote:hey guys,thanks for the replies.you wouldnt belive it the same cop on the same road got me again.BUT i had mudflaps altough the are made from 1.5mm thick rubber and hang down to the 300mm mark, aparently they didnt meet the requirements,they were to flimsy and didnt hold in possition when driving along,they where removalble apparently a big no no.and i had no water in my washer bottle (restriction to view) yello sticker stuck on the window :cry: once he dobe that i wasnt shy about letting him know what the cops should really be doing i there spare time than catching us comming back from a days play. oh well hope we all learn from this. cheers :)
Fair dinkum PIGS are wankers sometimes.... thats rediculous.... god if he let you off the first time, then saw u put some on, shorly he saw u made an effort and would of let you off but told you to make something stronger..... jesus that are fools with that sort of thing....

screwy

Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 8:18 am
by blkmav
muddymav wrote:hey guys,thanks for the replies.you wouldnt belive it the same cop on the same road got me again.BUT i had mudflaps altough the are made from 1.5mm thick rubber and hang down to the 300mm mark, aparently they didnt meet the requirements,they were to flimsy and didnt hold in possition when driving along,they where removalble apparently a big no no.and i had no water in my washer bottle (restriction to view) yello sticker stuck on the window :cry: once he dobe that i wasnt shy about letting him know what the cops should really be doing i there spare time than catching us comming back from a days play. oh well hope we all learn from this. cheers :)
Where did you get pulled over?

Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 9:05 am
by muddymav
cranbourne s/e melbourne going down the thompsons road.about 1k from dandenong-frankston road.

Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 8:20 am
by mkpatrol
muddymav wrote:hey guys,thanks for the replies.you wouldnt belive it the same cop on the same road got me again.BUT i had mudflaps altough the are made from 1.5mm thick rubber and hang down to the 300mm mark, aparently they didnt meet the requirements,they were to flimsy and didnt hold in possition when driving along,they where removalble apparently a big no no.and i had no water in my washer bottle (restriction to view) yello sticker stuck on the window :cry: once he dobe that i wasnt shy about letting him know what the cops should really be doing i there spare time than catching us comming back from a days play. oh well hope we all learn from this. cheers :)
Jees thats a bit rude, defecting you for no washer water. Also, there is nothing in the ADR's about the strength of the mudflaps or if they are removable.

I would check with VIC Roads techo guys about this & maybe dispute it.

Sounds like the copper is on a power trip.