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80 series brake hoses.WARNING
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 8:29 am
by squarebear
i recently removed front and rear sway bars. this was great it gave me more travel . but the standard brake hose from chasis to diff housing is to short for the extended travel .result fractured hose . NO BRAKES> cost of getting them extended $50.00 . better than $350.00 excess on insurance or dead.i only have a 2 in lift
Re: 80 series brake hoses.WARNING
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 8:40 am
by Toy80Diesel
squarebear wrote:i recently removed front and rear sway bars. this was great it gave me more travel . but the standard brake hose from chasis to diff housing is to short for the extended travel .result fractured hose . NO BRAKES> cost of getting them extended $50.00 . better than $350.00 excess on insurance or dead.i only have a 2 in lift
Thanks for the tip. This is quite important, as you have mentioned the saftey factor. I'm in a same vehicle with same specs but haven't looked at getting sway bar disconnects. How would you rate the increase in articulation? I'm pretty happy with it now, but I think the front is lacking a little more flex, the rear tucks the wheels right up quite easily.
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 8:46 am
by squarebear
i didnt use disconectors i removed them . made a big difference to articulation your only limited by your shockies . down side you get body roll when loaded and going arround corners . its only a 20 min job to remove them
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 9:27 am
by RaginRover
Most trucks that you lift you will have to extend the brake lines, had to with the rangie - it is all good advice, one more thing to factor in.
I have been considering replacing the rubber lines in my car over 10 years old* with braded s/steel ones after reading some good things about the benefits - I just wonder about longevity on a car like the rangie. I know HSVrangie has them, michael, how long have yours been installed ??
Still happy ?
Tom
(*mercedes service schedule says they are a 10 year replacemnt - I base most of my parts replacement on the merc schedule - crap loads better than anything else I have seen)
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 10:01 am
by bruiser
I have an 80 series 95 model. I used to have a 6 inch suspension lift and my standard break lines were ok at full articulation.
Good advice but not always the case.
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 10:12 am
by RaginRover
bruiser wrote:I have an 80 series 95 model. I used to have a 6 inch suspension lift and my standard break lines were ok at full articulation.
Good advice but not always the case.
Did you do the lift or did you have it done ?
If you had it done they probably disconnected where the flexy lines mounted to the body and made a longer bracket and then streached your metal piping to meet up with the new position.
Even having done that I would be impressed/suprised if the original lines were even long enough then ??
Anyway YMMV - I don't know crap about toyotas
Tom
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 10:29 am
by HSV Rangie
RaginRover wrote:Most trucks that you lift you will have to extend the brake lines, had to with the rangie - it is all good advice, one more thing to factor in.
I have been considering replacing the rubber lines in my car over 10 years old* with braded s/steel ones after reading some good things about the benefits - I just wonder about longevity on a car like the rangie. I know HSVrangie has them, michael, how long have yours been installed ??
Still happy ?
Tom
(*mercedes service schedule says they are a 10 year replacemnt - I base most of my parts replacement on the merc schedule - crap loads better than anything else I have seen)
Yep best brake mod going even noticed better braking long rubber hoses flex to much giving spongy brake feel.
just make sure you get ADR approved.
Michael.
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 10:35 am
by RaginRover
HSV Rangie wrote:Yep best brake mod going even noticed better braking long rubber hoses flex to much giving spongy brake feel.
just make sure you get ADR approved.
Michael.
Cheers Michael
Tom
Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 5:30 am
by mick80
gidday im new to this i have 96 model 80 series 50mm lift 30mm spacers = 80mm with long travel shocks no swaybars i only recently had it at the mechanics on two poster all hanging out brakelines only just long enough lenghened any way another thing was handbrake cable on verge of snapping undid bracket off top af diff hope thi helps
Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 8:29 am
by squarebear
with the 4in extention havent noticed any spongy brakes..just thankful they work now. lucky i wasnt in heavy trafic when the line blew. all good now. just thort it was worth mentioning to check it out. also check the hoses from housing to caliper
Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 9:49 am
by runnin4life
for those interested in steel braided lines
i was told they were ilegal but i dont know for sure
cus i never see actually steel braided lines for sale
i can only find the ricer look alike steel braided covers
Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 10:13 am
by RaginRover
runnin4life wrote:for those interested in steel braided lines
i was told they were ilegal but i dont know for sure
cus i never see actually steel braided lines for sale
i can only find the ricer look alike steel braided covers
Couple of threads with discussion here and places to buy
http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/PHP_Modul ... less+steel
HSV rangie has them
Tom
Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 8:51 am
by Spartacus
HSV Rangie wrote:
Yep best brake mod going even noticed better braking long rubber hoses flex to much giving spongy brake feel.
interesting... ive used the rubber hose off my daihatsu an they are
extremely long. and now i have a very spongey brake pedal.
i reckon u might have added another piece to my puzzle
Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 11:00 am
by squarebear
4in longer didnt seem to make any differance if it did a slight spongey brake is better than no brakes