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Coil Spacers - yay or nay?
Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 4:10 pm
by TinyGQ
It seems the front of my GQ is lower than the rear and it gives me the shits caus i dont think it looks as good, its only just noticable about 15mm maybe a lil more but i think my car would look 10 times better if level, what do pleople think of those coil spacers you can use to lift your car a lil? Any opinoions would be greatly appreciated. Of course this is only an option if there is enough travel for the shock.
Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 4:27 pm
by Suspension Stuff
If it only 15mm then coil spacers are cheaper then coils.
Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 4:40 pm
by -Nemesis-
I used about 15mm spacers in the rear of my 4Runner just to get a little more clearance for the longer shocks. I know 15mm is bugger all, none the less i've had no dramas since fitting. I also noted that Snake were the cheapest out the big mobs back then, by far.....
Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 4:48 pm
by blkmav
I prefer a 10mm rake back to front. So when I load up the back it levels out.
Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 7:17 pm
by Cossie
you should have it raking from back to front, it will drive heaps better this way.Leave it as it is.
failing that ARB sell trim packers in 5 and 10mm thicknesses for adjusting the height by small amounts (up to 15mm)
Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 8:07 pm
by plowy
blkmav wrote:I prefer a 10mm rake back to front. So when I load up the back it levels out.
that is the actual reason for it, in ome suspesion it is recomended that it is done for load carrying purpose
Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 8:19 pm
by TinyGQ
I dont really go touring very much so when i go i doubt if whati take with me would affect it that much, i do much more driving artound town. Doesnt it say on that spec page that from standard its even both ends??
Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 9:30 pm
by Suspension Stuff
It takes a lot of thought sometimes to sell springs that are going to sit level. There are so many variables. Winch, bull bar, dual batteries, turbo, heavier engine, heavier driver, passenger, car full of people, fridge, drawers, extra fuel, gas tank, bigger tyres sitting on the back, rear seats in or out of the 4wd and often your chassis will be twisted and maybe panhards aren't set right or your trailing arms not adjusted so your springs are sitting square so they bend and sag.
You then have 4wd's setup with softer suspension than usual so it is more likey to sag. You want it soft enough to flex well while being able to carry reasonable load without sagging. Then you have the opinion of the person buying them on what kind of ride he or she is after. Their opinion is often based on previous purchases and who knows what they were sold previously. Each manufacturer of coils have light duty, normal duty, heavy duty, extra heavy duty and extra extra heavy duty coils.
So it is hard to blame the spring or the person who sold them or anyone because there are so many variables.
I know it is a pain that it doesn't sit level and you have probably paid a fortune for these things but you could get another set and compensate buy getting a heavier front coil and find you are sitting up at the front and as others have said it is better to sit up in the rear then the front.
Sorry about the long winded post, anyway what I am getting at is put the coil spacers in and try to be happy with it.
Of course if you want new coils, I will be waiting with open arms

Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 11:13 pm
by bad_religion_au
and if it's just for "looks" why bother?
my 40 sits about 100mm lower on the drivers side than my passenger side
Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 6:36 am
by mickyd555
bad_religion_au wrote:and if it's just for "looks" why bother?
my 40 sits about 100mm lower on the drivers side than my passenger side
does that have any affect on the wear of the tyres??
Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 9:34 am
by TinyGQ
cheers 4wd stuff, im more than happy with long winded posts that what im after!! Yea im gonna put the spaers in the front and i think ill be happy then. I stil lthink my coils arent as high as they say though, so i wouldnt mind finding that out. I think ill take it in to a king sprind dealer they should have set hights to go off i would have imagined. Cheers for your help guys.
And as if you dont want your car to look good!!
tinyGQ
Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 9:47 am
by TinyGQ
well one more question, for the people that think i should put the spacers in should i go 15mm or 30mm??
TinyGQ
Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 11:57 am
by Suspension Stuff
It is quite common for coils to lean to the drivers side so I think you should measure all 4 corners when you are on the flat and see if you need a 30mm on the drivers side and maybe 15mm on the passenger side. On a GQ you have the weight of the driver, battery and spare wheel all on the right hand side. Usually but not always we get the drivers side coils made longer than the passenger side to compensate for this.
Surely some measurements are written on this Forum somewhere.
Shane
Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 12:17 pm
by TinyGQ
cheers 4wd stuff, ive been looking but i just got a reply to my email i sent to king springs, they say 715mm on the rear and 700 on the front so i guess all is well and im measuring a lil over that but im not really doing it accurately.
Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 12:24 pm
by bad_religion_au
mickyd555 wrote:bad_religion_au wrote:and if it's just for "looks" why bother?
my 40 sits about 100mm lower on the drivers side than my passenger side
does that have any affect on the wear of the tyres??
no idea their off, and rotated (well thrown on in any spot) almost weekly, and the cruiser gets driven too and from wheeling only pretty much.
Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 12:27 pm
by bad_religion_au
TinyGQ wrote:And as if you dont want your car to look good!!
tinyGQ
so you can be heartbroken when a stray rock or tree takes out a panel. or so you have issues with hacking into it to clear those bigger tires? i personally think a good looking rig is one that looks well used, and looks well set up (i.e. 33's on a stock height zook

). not one that has all 4 corners mm perfect in height.
Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 12:31 pm
by TinyGQ
nah your wrong part of them looking good is all dented lol!! when you see mine you will belive that i dont care about a dent or scratch lol, chicks dig scars dont they. Your going to the babie for summit trax arent you? I cant seeanyone wanting a car thats leaning to a side though!
I dont see anything wrong with wanting your car looking good, or in shape, i bet you wash yours!! lol
30mm
Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 2:33 pm
by known 2
i have 30mm coil spacers on my 80 series front and rear with a 2 inch lift i love em.
Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 4:47 pm
by bad_religion_au
TinyGQ wrote:nah your wrong part of them looking good is all dented lol!! when you see mine you will belive that i dont care about a dent or scratch lol, chicks dig scars dont they. Your going to the babie for summit trax arent you? I cant seeanyone wanting a car thats leaning to a side though!
I dont see anything wrong with wanting your car looking good, or in shape, i bet you wash yours!! lol
nah i don't even wash it (i know that's slack) because it gets driven too and from wheeling, and quite frankly, i'd be spending longer washing it each week than driving it... just to get it muddy the next weekend. guess i just got to the point where i realise that if i'm going to wheel it and enjoy it, i'm going to be this thing's last owner. and besides, mine has a feral look to it that i love. dented, chopped up, leaning to one side. it's battered, but i'll still jump in her tomorrow and drive to melbourne. i understand wanting your car to look good, but it's a matter of funtion over style when it comes to 4bies in my mind.
the lean, well i don't necissarily want it, i know what causes it. haven't had the time or motervation to fix it, as it'll involve either new spring plates, perches and springs, or removing my gas tank and putting a new main leaf in it. can't justify either. by all means, space your coils, i just agree with the other guys here, the rake is probably so it sits level with some kit in the back. mmm functionality.
dunno if i'll make the barbi, but i should be there for the meeting... we'll see how work pans out
Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 5:06 pm
by TinyGQ
cool, valid points everyones trucks are fo different uses, I use mine as a daily driver for now as well so the littlest things piss me off with it loL!!
Are you coming over from Vic for it or do you live in SA??
Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 5:54 pm
by bad_religion_au
TinyGQ wrote:cool, valid points everyones trucks are fo different uses, I use mine as a daily driver for now as well so the littlest things piss me off with it loL!!
Are you coming over from Vic for it or do you live in SA??
live in blackwood SA.
there's only one club i travel interstate for

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 8:20 am
by TinyGQ
ahh i just notced it said location Vic