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The Snorks
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 5:27 pm
by klrevo
how good was that show! THE SNORKS!!!
loves it,
ANYWAYS, i bought this snork real cheap:
p.s - thats also the ally bar that i picked up for free from one of dads mates who owns an alloy fab shop, called PRO ALI, good place, only if i need it for 33"s
hopefully not, but it was free, and i get it machined for free at work, so its all good
but yeh so iv got that snorkel, and iv measured him all up, if i get 12" welded into the flat section at the bottom itll be spot on in line with the air intake, its off an fj40, but how the fuck do i get it hooked up to this:
iv been thinkin, im right cut the hole, prep the hole, rubber the hole, stick it in, but the angle of the tube section coming out of the air box is a bitch, i wanted to run steel pipe from the airbox with a flange from the inside with 3" of 3" pipe, then the snorkel through the quarter, and join those together with a few inches iof rubber hose, but a. i cant find the right size rubber hose, not even from pirtek or truckline, and the shite that i can get is too stiff and id pretty much have to make the same shape out of pipe that the airbox plastic pipe is at the moment,
so how do i go about connecting the snorkel to the airbox, anyone?!??!?
dean
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 6:29 pm
by its fishi
hmm maybe some silicone piping that's used for intercoolers would be the go, you could try
http://www.justjap.com/parts_nintercoolers.htm or
http://www.uniqueautosports.com/ or a performance workshop on the Central coast (maybe Supercheap have these in the $$Bling$$ section too????) .
Or try a search for silicone in the car section on ebay.
If you got the bright coloured stuff it would be fully sik bro.
snork
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 6:35 pm
by klrevo
ahahah yeh fully, nah been there done that, over the fully sick bra thing, but i originally looked at silicone hoses aswell, but not only do they not flex and bend either, but ud think they were made outta gold with the price they are
i dunno, i just want this to be on the cheap, nothing bling, but i do want it to be waterproof and working. just gotta find something to go from the airbox to the snorkel
guys....
dean
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 6:40 pm
by its fishi
There's another type of hose thats thin walled slicone over a wire coil, normally used for heater duct. Very flexible, may be what you're after. Sorry I don't know it's proper name, maybe try an auto air-conditioning workshop?
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 7:12 pm
by Miyagi
being a petrol engine, i dont see the need for a snorkle. why put your self through all the hassle? yeaah fair enough you'll get cleaner air but it'll only really help when crusing through the desert.
seriousley, get a unifilter (about $70 i think) ask noisy what he thinks of them.
but hey, who am i to comment when i'm planing what i'm planing
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 8:22 pm
by klrevo
Miyagi wrote:but hey, who am i to comment when i'm planing what i'm planing
yhe exactly, and you gotta keep me updated man, cos im keen as mustard to help, cos if ur thinking of what im thinking ur thinking of then i want in on the knowledge so we can find a way to do it cheaper cos i want one too, seriously but, im getting some money in june and i want the front to go live
yeh i understood that yes ull get cleaner air, though i was more thinking for river crossings, i guess i have never really thought about it, but i was under the impression that if water is at ur air intake level and the engine sucked water in that you would get 'hydrolock' and stuff ur engine, im heading from the coast up the coast and travelling through berrington tops, no probs there, but when i reach the tweed valley up near murwillumbah im under the impression that there is some
deep river crossings up there and im not keen for an engine rebuild/replace the engine, nor the trip back on a flatbed...
excuse my ignorance if im wrong there miyagi, but thats what i was thinking....
am i right or am i wasting my time
dean
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 8:41 pm
by Miyagi
as soon as that water gets near your alternater, dizzy, plugs and leads it'll die in the arse. Unless you can FULLY waterproof all your electrics i realy do think it'll be a waste of time man, sorry.
(no idea what it means, just think it looks cool
)
snork
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 8:50 pm
by klrevo
yeh i understand all that, but i can make from the top of the snorkle waterproof to the throttle body, so if anythings gonna happen its only gonna be the alt, or dizzy or electronics, id rather replace that than an engine thats been fucked especially when its gonna cost me about 50 bucks all up, if i can get something from the snorkel to the airbox...
yeh well see how we go, might bother, might not
hahaha p.s - nice emoticon doofus
Re: snork
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 8:59 pm
by Miyagi
klrevo wrote:
hahaha p.s - nice emoticon doofus
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 10:06 pm
by J Top
Look at changing the inlet hole on the filter box to a size you can get a rubber elbow for. I have done this fitting the diesel terrano snorkle to the petrol V6. Have it plastic welded at your local panel beaters.
Fit the snorkle, its worth the effort, then vent your dissy cap to your airbox and seal the cap to the dissy.
J Top
t
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 10:14 pm
by klrevo
thanks j top, thats some good thinkin there, plastic welding, i forgot about that shite, thats tops, my good mate allan owns devine smash repairs, use to do all the work on my old lancer, hell sort me out, thats a good idea, thanks heaps
dean
Re: t
Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 3:48 am
by DougH
ARB uses a cast adapter with a rubber gasket to bolt up to the air box, then they use a small length rubber tube to bridge the gap between the adapter and the snorkel.
Maybe you could buy just the adapater from ARB, it is a very well designed part.
douig
Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 7:37 am
by klrevo
thanks heaps again doug, that sounds shitloads easier and better than some crazy arse booty fab i was gonna do, ill see if we can get it downunder
thanks again
dean
Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 9:05 am
by Hekta
Dean, let us know what you end up going with... I need to re think how my snorkel is hooked up.
Stu
snork
Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 9:11 am
by klrevo
yeh definitely hekta, will do, i still havent figured it out yet
doug i dropped into the local ARB place on the wya to uni, no can do. ARB do Safari snorkels, and either way netiehr make this infamous piece you speak of, the guy there is real good and heaps genuine, if he says that he cant get it then i believe him, he also said the guy from Safari is a prick and cockhead hahahha, and that even the piece they use he could not get for me seperate, so im still stumped, i dunno, cant find the right tubing, be bend enough, and is the hose from the airbox didnt have those corrugations in it i rekon would make like a shitload easier
anyways im still trying, so when i figure something out ill let everyone know...
dean
Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 9:32 am
by Hekta
Yeah I bought a 2nd hand Safari Snorkel, just the body (like you have) no fitting kit etc. The dude at Opposite Lock said that I got the cheap bit of the snorkel and you can't get the fitting kit seperately
I bootie fabbed it up, but I wanna do it better
air
Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 9:52 am
by klrevo
sorry, i forgot to mention, the other bitchy part of the exercise is the fact the the plastic tubing going into the quarter into the little resevior is not round, it is oval, why the hell would the tube go from round to oval?!?!?!
idiots, ahh well, yeh ill figure out soemthing soon, if i could find 3" rubber hose that would bend and not kink itd be sweet, i wanna run a flange setup, kinda like this:
silicone the flange setup, hoseclamp and silicone the rubber hose, and mount the snorkel, but i cant seem to find the right rubber hose, because it has to bend so much in such little space
iv tried, pirtek, enzed and turckline, anyone else....or any ideas what else i can use, iv tried rubber hose, and silicone hose, am i able to successfully run corrugated hose?
this is the shit i can get, but its way thick, runs a steel wire about 3mm all the way through it and u cant bend it:
can i run this successfully???
dean
Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 10:13 am
by its fishi
its fishi wrote:There's another type of hose thats thin walled slicone over a wire coil, normally used for heater duct. Very flexible, may be what you're after. Sorry I don't know it's proper name, maybe try an auto air-conditioning workshop?
Mate I'd really look into this stuff if I was you.
fishi
Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 10:27 am
by klrevo
rightio, yeh thanks mate i actually forogt u said about that, thanks, ill see if i can find a supplier, anyone know where to start? ill have a search and see what i can come up with
dean
Re: fishi
Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 10:32 am
by Hekta
klrevo wrote:rightio, yeh thanks mate i actually forogt u said about that, thanks, ill see if i can find a supplier, anyone know where to start? ill have a search and see what i can come up with
dean
HypoZook is an Air Con guy
hypo
Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 10:42 am
by klrevo
rightio hekta might get in contact with hypo then and see what he can do
dean
snork
Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 12:22 pm
by klrevo
rightio, iv just been up the road in my break at uni and bought an air intake duct hose from Bullseye Auto Parts. the hose and clamps cost me all of 30 bucks, autobahn wanted 73.99 just for the hose and repco didnt even have anything, an auto airconditiong bloke wanted 55 plus 12 bucks to get it up here from adelaide
yeh right, so its a rubber compund hose that has a small wire through it but it bends
VERY easily, but does not kink, ill take pics when i get ull know what i mean, it can fit the shape no worries so i guess ill see how we go, might get a spare plastic tube from the airbox to the quarter to hack and trial see how we go,
ill keep it updated,
dean
Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 9:21 pm
by grumpy221
Miyagi wrote:being a petrol engine, i dont see the need for a snorkle. why put your self through all the hassle? yeaah fair enough you'll get cleaner air but it'll only really help when crusing through the desert.
seriousley, get a unifilter (about $70 i think) ask noisy what he thinks of them.
but hey, who am i to comment when i'm planing what i'm planing
I agree been through "the swimming pool" at ormeau
water over the bonnet and upto the windows
and sure the engine got very muddy but didnt faze it bottom of the air box was muddy aswell but nought got through the filter
oh and plently of wd40 over the electrics before I go anywhere like that
snork
Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 7:25 pm
by klrevo
yeh fair enough, but itll cost me bugger all, about 30 bucks, so doesnt seem that bad to do it
ill show all how ig ow hen im done, i dunno, gives me somethign to do, its all good
dean
Re: snork
Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 7:29 pm
by grumpy221
klrevo wrote:yeh fair enough, but itll cost me bugger all, about 30 bucks, so doesnt seem that bad to do it
ill show all how ig ow hen im done, i dunno, gives me somethign to do, its all good
dean
as u said its all good
snork
Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 7:44 pm
by klrevo
rightio guys and girls,
iv got all the pieces now to do the job, hopefully tommorrow ill get a straight section of pipe welded into the snorkel and before long hopefully i should have a snork on the jabber
ill post pics up and stuff when im done, shouldnt take too long either i rekon, iv managed to get all the bits and pieces to do it exactly how i wanted to from the beginning pretty much so i guess we'll all get to see how schmart i am
dean
Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 8:32 am
by Bitsamissin
Yes you can't get any of the Safari snorkel parts as spares through ARB it's been the topic of many chat forum discussions.
Basically if something breaks or is lost you have to buy the whole kit.
The Safari owner will not budge on this and it makes me think why ARB don't flick him and have their own snorkels made.
I'd be very interested to see your adapter set up as well.
The snorkel has saved my arse more than once and considering where the air intake is on these things relatively cheap engine insurance.
Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 1:49 pm
by KCboy
sirs,
im from the philippines and safari snorkels here are so expensive so i hag an airtec brand snorkel installed, you think it's the same quality...i know safari is the most well known brand when it comes to snorkels.
the snorks
Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 8:29 pm
by klrevo
ok here we go,
so monday arvo i got the extra 12" welded in that i needed, (if only it were that easy hey guys, ron jeremey eat ur heart out
), anywhom, heres some piccies and a little expalanation, anything more just ask, hekta heres how i did it
so first i took out the airbox, then cut the panel with the drill, punched all holes, though snapped a few bits drilling and hence the few scratches on the quarter, but hey its a fourby right
, lined everythign up, used those little copper hot water fittings and stretched them out so theyre flat and pop rivetted those to the quarter and a-pillar, then hooked up the snorkel, hoe clamps to secure it, the flexi-pipe from the snorkel to the airbox, airbox standard plastic hose cut down to about 2" long and straight, clamped, this section all siliconed, and that was pretty much bos ur uncle
took the top off and checked for 'waterproofness'....the engine stalled when blocked so that good enough for me, and having driven about 260km today, it feels as though, (and this maybe the placebo effect) but it feels to pick up a bit more, run smoother, and a tiny bit better on petrol
anyways, any further questions please ask, miyagi has seen it int he flesh when i picked up my new manual hubs that he so willingly gave up from Noisey, and i dunno what he thought but i rekon it looks half decent hey, and for around a hundred bucks, im certainly not complaining, event he local ARB guy said he wouldnt buy a Safari Snorkel for $500
cheers,
dean
Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 9:08 pm
by Noisey
Just a thought but why didn't you enter the guard closer to the windscreen and run all the connecting tube in the inner guard.
Paint it "pretty blue" if you have any of your spring paint left.