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Who is running them?
What vehicle?
What type of Terrain?
What do you think of them?

I've had 2 sets of 37x13x15" now and I wont be changing in a hurry. For all terrain courses they are awesome! My ony gripe is that to go any larger in diameter they start to become too wide.

I'm yet to find a better tire for all terrain.

So good that I'm considering buying a fresh set

1 of the guyz in our 4by club has em on his gq which has a small sc on it, hes tryin to get rid of them last time i heard because of to many breakages, and they were 37s.

ISUZUROVER wrote:Who is running them?
What vehicle?
What type of Terrain?
What do you think of them?

ME
hilux
All Terrian-Rock Crawling
LOVE THEM

I really dont think that there is a better all terrian
The lux weights over 2 ton and i run the fronts at 12 psi and the rears at 10psi (came of the bead once but that was my own fault)


Ps there 37-13-16

bazooked wrote:1 of the guyz in our 4by club has em on his gq which has a small sc on it, hes tryin to get rid of them last time i heard because of to many breakages, and they were 37s.

breakages because they hook up so well? there is no other reason i can think of why tyres will cause breakages, other than they are too big for the equipment.

CRUSHU wrote:

bazooked wrote:1 of the guyz in our 4by club has em on his gq which has a small sc on it, hes tryin to get rid of them last time i heard because of to many breakages, and they were 37s.

breakages because they hook up so well? there is no other reason i can think of why tyres will cause breakages, other than they are too big for the equipment.

Unless he means the tyre breaking, which i doubt.

what are peoples thoughts on these for a DD?

im hoping 33x9.50r16's will fit on my split rims...

i drove on a set of 37s for bout a month to and from work, prolly not a good idea, they ride really nice but a light aircraft is quieter, they were wearing pretty quick 2. PS if u want ur Daily driver to stay legal, bias ply tyres is not a option

they give superior grip in most situations.. but just make sure you have the CV's and axles to suit your driving style.. as they go bang too easily with stock items.

TOM

Thanks for the responses guys. That's what I was looking for, a tyre that was good for QLD conditions...

Seems like most people are running the 37x13? I was thinking of the 38.5x11x16 - beebee or 83lux - any thoughts on how the narrower tyre would go compared to the 13" wide???

EDIT - anyone grooved them?

Super Swampers are not designed to be use as DD tyres. They will suffer excessive wear have little stablity at speed and are not legal for road use as they are not speed or load rated and therefore do not meet A.S.

As for a hard core off road tyre they are one af the best.

no swampers are designed for DD,There an awsome tyre with HEAPS of traction specialy at low PSI and smash peices of drive terrain like a paper cup,I run 38.5 x 15 on a hilux front diff and probably the worse thing I`ve done besides buying a 4runner

ISUZUROVER wrote:Thanks for the responses guys. That's what I was looking for, a tyre that was good for QLD conditions...

Seems like most people are running the 37x13? I was thinking of the 38.5x11x16 - beebee or 83lux - any thoughts on how the narrower tyre would go compared to the 13" wide???

EDIT - anyone grooved them?

I grooved mine before they were even mounted on a rim. Only cut 5x5mm slots perpendicular to the lugs. How much difference it makes is anyone's guess. The intention was to improve lateral traction. And seeing as I've never had cause to complain about lateral traction, maybe it worked. Next time I'll go deeper.

The 38.5x11x16 just look wrong. It's a height to width ratio thing. That's my biggest problem with them. I've never used them but a mate who has, recommened I stick with the 37". Have a look and see what you think.

Very good at low psi on the gu ute I had

lowlux wrote:Super Swampers are not designed to be use as DD tyres. They will suffer excessive wear have little stablity at speed and are not legal for road use as they are not speed or load rated and therefore do not meet A.S.

As for a hard core off road tyre they are one af the best.

Slight hijack, sorry, but can someone who knows confirm that Super Swampers (not boggers) are not a legal on road tyre? I thought they were....? I've driven on road with mine plenty......me bad?

beretta wrote:

lowlux wrote:Super Swampers are not designed to be use as DD tyres. They will suffer excessive wear have little stablity at speed and are not legal for road use as they are not speed or load rated and therefore do not meet A.S.

As for a hard core off road tyre they are one af the best.

Slight hijack, sorry, but can someone who knows confirm that Super Swampers (not boggers) are not a legal on road tyre? I thought they were....? I've driven on road with mine plenty......me bad?

No there not.

bias ply = illegal unless ur car was made round the time of the flintstones

Boggers are an awsum tyre, Sold mine for cash to go OS, now I'm missing them , you won't get a better tyre, use to run mine at 8 psi, and never broke anything, my panels on my Lux have been chewed out but no damage to the tyres.

Bentzook wrote:Very good at low psi on the gu ute I had

thats cool my tsl do the same sorta thing, gotta get thou's beadlocks someday

Bentzook wrote:Very good at low psi on the gu ute I had

but let me guess they wood b shit on a zook ????

Nah,

ben what are you looking at building with these boggers? don't know how well they will fit on sII

def90 wrote:ben what are you looking at building with these boggers? don't know how well they will fit on sII

If the forestrover (IIA) ran 50" wheels with no suspension lift (just wider track and new mudguards) - I think I can fit 38's on without problems. Just need the power and gearing to turn them

beebee wrote:
I grooved mine before they were even mounted on a rim. Only cut 5x5mm slots perpendicular to the lugs. How much difference it makes is anyone's guess. The intention was to improve lateral traction. And seeing as I've never had cause to complain about lateral traction, maybe it worked. Next time I'll go deeper.

The 38.5x11x16 just look wrong. It's a height to width ratio thing. That's my biggest problem with them. I've never used them but a mate who has, recommened I stick with the 37". Have a look and see what you think.

Thanks for the info Dave - maybe running half the tires around the wrong way improves lateral stability too .

What did youe mate say was wrong with the 38's - sidewall stability or not enough tread width? Or just the looks? What rim width are you running?

ISUZUROVER wrote:

beebee wrote:
I grooved mine before they were even mounted on a rim. Only cut 5x5mm slots perpendicular to the lugs. How much difference it makes is anyone's guess. The intention was to improve lateral traction. And seeing as I've never had cause to complain about lateral traction, maybe it worked. Next time I'll go deeper.

The 38.5x11x16 just look wrong. It's a height to width ratio thing. That's my biggest problem with them. I've never used them but a mate who has, recommened I stick with the 37". Have a look and see what you think.

Thanks for the info Dave - maybe running half the tires around the wrong way improves lateral stability too .

What did youe mate say was wrong with the 38's - sidewall stability or not enough tread width? Or just the looks? What rim width are you running?

83Lux and I are both running 8" rims. The 38" were BJ's old tyres but they look really weird. I think I'd prefer the extra width.

Agree with bb, the 37's look better height to width, but have had a couple of mates running the 38's and they work awsum, especially on rock, they just look too narrow.

On road if you have ever driven with bogger on road in the rain, you will know how little side grip they have. Slip slidin thru all corners and roundabouts with the slightest touch of the right foot. Good fun for a while but prob not for ever.....

beebee, can you post up a couple of pics, showing the way you groved them

MARKx4 wrote:beebee, can you post up a couple of pics, showing the way you groved them

I would be keen to see this too. Anyone siped them???

Thanks for the info TAZZ - I care about performance, not looks.

Ben,

One of the Guys in the LROCV runs the 38's and has for ages.
He seems to think there great as well.

Seem to be a good profile for the LR, his is a coiled S3 at about 94inch WB. He has a 350Chev so there is plenty of power to turn them, but he is reasonable on the right foot and has only broken one or two county cv's in 3 or so years.

Dave.

beretta wrote:

lowlux wrote:Super Swampers are not designed to be use as DD tyres. They will suffer excessive wear have little stablity at speed and are not legal for road use as they are not speed or load rated and therefore do not meet A.S.

As for a hard core off road tyre they are one af the best.

Slight hijack, sorry, but can someone who knows confirm that Super Swampers (not boggers) are not a legal on road tyre? I thought they were....? I've driven on road with mine plenty......me bad?

I think Lowlux knows a bit about tyres , he has been working for australias two largest and best known tyre brands for as long as i can remember.

Oh, he has also probably seen more swampers than everyone else combined on this board.

He knows his stuff.

By the way, yes he is correct. They are not street legal.