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front diff problems

Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2003 2:52 pm
by Hoonz
my front dif is f@WkeD .... this just happened ... was taking it easy up an easy hill ... lockers in and crawled up 3/4 way up bang ... no front drive

just been problem after problem lately with it ... seems to be breaking far to easy .....

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ok so now what ....
im going to get the thing rebuilt end to end and hope to god i didnt bust the airlocker

has any one had their front diff rebuilt .... what $$$$ am i looking at?

Re: front diff problems

Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2003 10:26 pm
by bogged
All depends on whats broke. Is it the Diff? C&P? or the Transfer case?

Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2003 10:57 pm
by Hoonz
im assuming c+p ... steering didnt bind up like a cv break...
transfer i dont know for sure yet

Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2003 11:07 pm
by bogged
Terrafirma wrote:im assuming c+p ... steering didnt bind up like a cv break...
transfer i dont know for sure yet


drain the oil and have a look for teeth... :)

Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2003 8:44 am
by Hoonz
eh if only it was that easy cant pick up tools yet lol

so i've optioned in the rebuild of the original diff end to end
or
install a GU front diff .... there was a tread about this conversion some where .... not much info though .... so if some one could enlighten us with there wisdom please do :D "whats involved"

Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2003 11:27 am
by bogged
Terrafirma wrote:eh if only it was that easy cant pick up tools yet lol

so i've optioned in the rebuild of the original diff end to end
or
install a GU front diff .... there was a tread about this conversion some where .... not much info though .... so if some one could enlighten us with there wisdom please do :D "whats involved"



But what are you rebuilding? you dont know what it is yet! could be cheaper than you first thought.

Ask a mate to undo the bolt on the diff to drain it, that will give you an idea if its that. No use doing a GU front diff if its the Transfer case..

Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2003 12:38 pm
by Hoonz
true .... but if it was the tcase it wouldnt drive at all? wouldn't it have mashed all the gears ... cause i drove home

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2003 9:08 am
by Wendle
might have hammered the drive chain to the front output, or sheared the output shaft or something.. More likely to be the ring and pinion though..

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2003 1:18 pm
by bazzle
Dont panic yet.
Ive broken 2 RH front axles over the years, clean breaks behind the CV.

Bazzle

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2003 1:25 pm
by bazzle
Dont panic yet.
Ive broken 2 RH front axles over the years, clean breaks behind the CV.

Bazzle

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2003 1:37 pm
by Wendle
bazzle wrote:Dont panic yet.
Ive broken 2 RH front axles over the years, clean breaks behind the CV.

Bazzle


he has a front locker though, so he should at least have some front drive?

Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2003 10:03 pm
by big red
if it broke a tooth you would think it would still drive a bit...unless you broke all the teeth off.
stick it in 2wd and try and turn the front driveshaft with hubs locked

Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2003 10:19 am
by Hoonz
utes in the work shop now
ok so they drained then transfer case... clean ...
the gear box ... clean and front diff some metal :bad-words:
stripped the diff ...
left stub axel is rooted still ...
another thing to fix cant do the bearings right ...
center is out ... crown + pinion is spotless .. :shock: :bad-words:
:idea: the star gears in the locker :bad-words:

Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2003 6:08 pm
by ozy1
uhhh.....it looks like your up for an air locker, ARB sure know how to rip ya hey.

Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2003 9:05 pm
by Hoonz
should be under warrenty?

can't u rebuild airlockers?

Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2003 10:40 pm
by ozy1
well its great if its under warrenty,

i am unsure on rebuilding them, but you might be able too

Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2003 10:53 pm
by moose
parts are available !!!!! :cool:

Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2003 6:13 am
by bazzle
"uhhh.....it looks like your up for an air locker, ARB sure know how to rip ya hey"


Thats not fair, they havn't ripped him yet.. :?:

Ive never heard of a Nissan airlocker breaking gears.

Airlockers are normally stronger than the components around them unless abused ie. turned on with one wheel spinning.

Give ARB a ring 1st

Remember 4x4 companies also read these forums and things said about companies may influence there decisions to act on a problem.

Bazzle

Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2003 1:26 pm
by Hoonz
hahaha yeh i read the thread on the TJ .....
but this is the only trouble i've had with the locker ... still waiting to see if they've opened up the locker yet .... waiting for a car to get home so
i can go for a look ... breakages are all part of the game
unless its bodgy work ....

so if parts are available ... dare say i'll be waiting a while for them
took them 1+half months to fix my compressor .... "week turn around"

so after this front diff should be sorted out, just need some cheezy CV's :D ..... any one know hows his buisness is going?

the

Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2003 5:11 pm
by MKPatrolGuy
He is flat out at the moment, demand is exceeding supply

Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2003 6:45 pm
by Hoonz
okies not the front locker ... not the front diff ... its clean ...
getting cheezy CV's .... :D

soooooooo whats wrong?
i dunno yet ... maybe it is the transfer case ...
if the transfer case has to come out crawler gears will be going in
:?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?:

Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2003 7:15 pm
by Singo17
Terrafirna how many times have you driven your ute up around those rock formations a Mt Louisa.

Just thinkin how much transmission wind up you would've stressed it with over the last 12 months.

I bet transfer.

Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2003 7:33 pm
by Hoonz
Hey Singo, long time no see dood .... I live on mt louisa :D :rofl:
considering i live directly across the road from the tracks ehehe
i know the tracks like the back of my hand

but yes i guess ... thats alot of stress over the last 12 months
but i can't say i've really given it a hard flogging : lots of right pedal on the rocks : ....

as u saw when we went wheelin.. my rig crawled up quite easy
but then again ... mt louisa tracks look tame compard to some of the pics i've seen on here ... dunno never really been wheelin any where else
when is your rig gonna score some lockers?! :twisted:
anyhow ... its broken .. cant do much about it
fix it and keep going :D :D :D :D :D :D

Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2003 8:18 pm
by Singo17
Terrafirma wrote:Hey Singo, long time no see dood .... I live on mt louisa :D :rofl:
considering i live directly across the road from the tracks ehehe
i know the tracks like the back of my hand

but yes i guess ... thats alot of stress over the last 12 months
but i can't say i've really given it a hard flogging : lots of right pedal on the rocks : ....

as u saw when we went wheelin.. my rig crawled up quite easy
but then again ... mt louisa tracks look tame compard to some of the pics i've seen on here ... dunno never really been wheelin any where else
when is your rig gonna score some lockers?! :twisted:
anyhow ... its broken .. cant do much about it
fix it and keep going :D :D :D :D :D :D


Yeah sorry what I mean't is that yeah you have driven heaps around up there and a lot of it is high traction surfaces where you are going to load up the drive line even if you don't use alot of hammer.

And yeah you drive quite sensibly so I wouldn't say it was shock loading but the effects of wind up.

You still haven't found the prob yet though so I am guessing.


The GU isn't going to get lockers I have decided. No point in trashing the family wagon but I have another plan.

One I have to give the GU to the missus daily driver (not happy jan if you saw our second cars condition you would cry for the GU. My missus and mecahnical action are the reason that we have oxymorons).


I get to sell her car and with a bit of cash I have stashed buy and build a registered semi comp/offroad play thing.

I am stalling because I am loath to give the GU up becuase it will be rooted in 12 months from running around town and being bingled into everthing thats my missus reckons wont hurt the truck.

Plus moving to perth in November.

Might be looking at a CREB TK trip around Sept too...Dpends on XRCC and if is a goer in NSW as the web site doesn't have anything on it. I gets this funny feeling that DM is losing interest or that something behind the scenes will happen soon.

Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2003 9:28 pm
by MUSS
just ditch the pissan nissan and get a tough yota terra save you time and money :D :finger: :rofl: :roll:

Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2003 9:48 pm
by Hoonz
smart ass mofo take ya bitch ass back to toyota thread :fist: 0X :2gunfire:



:rofl: :finger:

Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2003 1:39 pm
by timo_ed
JAKE wrote:.....get a tough yota


if there was such a thing. ;)