Anyone Else Had Problems With 5.12Diff Gears

Post by **cutzook** » Sun Nov 13, 2005 12:17 pm

I have been having alot of trouble with my 5.12 diff gears. I have stripped 2 sets of CW&Ps and just wondering if anyone else is have problems. They are in a WT Sierra with twin lockers.

Any help would be appreciated.

Cheers Joel

Post by **small talk** » Sun Nov 13, 2005 4:16 pm

This would be interesting to know, i will be going to these if i can get hold of them. would your problem be from the twin lockers?? Did matty have trouble with them?? this is something to think about.

Brock.

Post by **Gwagensteve** » Sun Nov 13, 2005 5:32 pm

Front or rear?

Are you getting a shop to set them up or are you setting them up yourself? I am aware that with lockers and plenty of traction, it is possible to put too much load on the pinion (just my theory) and this will collapse the crush sleeve, allowing the pinion to walk back and forward. Given time, this would cause .
I believe that CJZuki has had his crush sleeve replaced with a solid spacer and shims they should eliminate the problem.

I have come across a number of hard worked locker equipped suzuki's with loose/floaty pinions.

Post by **cutzook** » Sun Nov 13, 2005 5:40 pm

it is in the rear. a mate that knows what he is doing set the last one up about 3 nights ago so i haven't even been wheeling yet just to and from work.

Post by **oozuk** » Sun Nov 13, 2005 6:02 pm

5.13 pinions (suzuki vitara) are too small and smash easy when shock loaded , i'm now using 4.6 vitara R&P's with bigger pinion tooth count..
think they come out of the vitarta 1600 16v auto model front diffs

Post by **cutzook** » Sun Nov 13, 2005 6:13 pm

i am not to fussed on them anymore. i am going to put a nother R&P in it and sell em. cause i have lux difs ready to go under.

Post by **Bentzook** » Sun Nov 13, 2005 7:08 pm

I used them for five years with Detroit Lockers front & rear in one of my previous zooks and never broke anything. You may have to look at how you drive. If you drive it like it was stolen, then a short lifespan it will be.

Post by **cutzook** » Sun Nov 13, 2005 7:49 pm

i am reasonbly sensible around the roads but when i get rock crawling they cop it a bit, but i havent even been wheeling in the last set gears.

Post by **mud4b** » Mon Nov 14, 2005 8:35 pm

cutzook wrote:i am reasonbly sensible around the road.

bwhahahahahahahahahahaha

mwuhahahahahahahahahahaha

yeah right.... did someone say shockloads.... :finger:

to you joel....

Post by **OVERKILL ENG** » Mon Nov 14, 2005 11:12 pm

My cousin runs these in his Zook and has broken about 6 sets. He is young foolish and thrashes the shitter outa it.
SAM

Post by **SLOGQ** » Tue Nov 15, 2005 6:46 pm

mud4b wrote:
cutzook wrote:i am reasonbly sensible around the road.

bwhahahahahahahahahahaha

mwuhahahahahahahahahahaha

yeah right.... did someone say shockloads....

to you joel....

HA HA

remember joel i have broken a set (in a factory diff centre) and i dont do doughnuts on the road :lol:

Its the small pinion that does it IMHO, 8 tooth compared to 11 tooth in in a 3.7 centre.............

Post by **cutzook** » Tue Nov 15, 2005 7:45 pm

IMHO suzuki diffs suck. done me well for a little while but bring on the lux diffs. a couple days to go. Yeeee haaaaaaaaaa

Post by **Bentzook** » Tue Nov 15, 2005 8:14 pm

if ya smashing zook diffs, hilux diffs or anything else wont be strong enough. You must be driving like a real tool. Like anything, treat em with a little respect and they will last a lifetime. Many guys in our zook club drive with stockers with 31s or 33s and have no problems. Again it sounds like you stole it.
Calm down and drive it, allow the zook to crawl over the terrain instead of booting it everywhere.
The youth of today have no respect for anything and expect it to last forever.

Post by **cutzook** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 5:04 pm

how about you get out and drive what i drive with zook diffs and see how you go. what do you mean if i am breaking zook diffs i will break hilux or anything else. i could put a complete sierra centre inside a hilux housing. wont be stronger my ass :finger:

Post by **cutzook** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 5:06 pm

what diffs are you using. they look a little bit wider than zook diffs aye

Post by **RB zook** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 5:40 pm

Bentzook wrote:if ya smashing zook diffs, hilux diffs or anything else wont be strong enough. You must be driving like a real tool. Like anything, treat em with a little respect and they will last a lifetime. Many guys in our zook club drive with stockers with 31s or 33s and have no problems. Again it sounds like you stole it.
Calm down and drive it, allow the zook to crawl over the terrain instead of booting it everywhere.
The youth of today have no respect for anything and expect it to last forever.

the zook club never really wheel hard shit...
for a capiable rig you want to know you have the strength to be able to give it a bit without your junk breaking.

Post by **Bentzook** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 6:58 pm

the zook club never really wheel hard shit...

You`ve only been there a year or two.

how about you get out and drive what i drive with zook diffs and see how you go

Come back in time to the real Wirriba Ridge, ............

Post by **CHOPZUKI** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 7:00 pm

wow

that = hardcore :finger:

Post by **cutzook** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 7:39 pm

exactly right ryan, you want to know your junk wont break.

Post by **small talk** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 7:41 pm

Starting to sound like a hilux v.s zook diff kinda thread.

Post by **Gwagensteve** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 7:54 pm

Bentzook wrote:if ya smashing zook diffs, hilux diffs or anything else wont be strong enough. You must be driving like a real tool.

Gold!

Cutzook wrote:how about you get out and drive what i drive with zook diffs and see how you go"

Double gold!

I love this stuff. Of course you need rockwells and a chev to drive anything, especially mall.

We have members who manage to drive everything we think we need every bit of bling for with 1.0 diffs, 31's and lots of stock stuff.

This stuff about you should see the blah blah blah is pretty much always the talk of someone who want to justift all the time/money and HD parts they have bought/built. Just remember there is someone out there that can actually drive that can take near stock stuff that you or I couldn't drive up a gutter everywhere we need all the bling to go.

Be humble dude, you will get more respect than talking up all stuff you "need" hilux junk to drive.

What would i know, Ilm just in a suzuki club. all we do is mall and drive stuff with stock diffs.

Steve.

Post by **christover1** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 8:17 pm

Gwagensteve wrote:What would i know, Ilm just in a suzuki club. all we do is mall and drive stuff with stock diffs.
Steve.

mines great on carpark speed bumps too :roll:

Joeys going to be using 4:6 vitara centres in his 110kwatt sierra, this should be a good test of strength...

christover

Post by **Gwagensteve** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 8:25 pm

Wow, that'll be needing kenworth diffs

Hang on a minute - your both in A CLUB! A SUZUKI CLUB! Don't you be leaving the car park now- you'll just e slowing down those zuk drivers with real diffs.

Post by **RB zook** » Thu Nov 17, 2005 5:08 pm

Bentzook wrote:
the zook club never really wheel hard shit...

You`ve only been there a year or two.

how about you get out and drive what i drive with zook diffs and see how you go

Come back in time to the real Wirriba Ridge, ............

when was the last hardcore trip? paulies place how many club members came and how many actually drove.......
of the people in the club i wheel with phill drives the hard shit and is on standard diffs he seems to always break a cv almost every trip

Post by **cutzook** » Thu Nov 17, 2005 6:21 pm

exactly, he breaks a cv almost every trip. why not go lux diffs and break a cv when you do out of this world shit.

Post by **zook chick** » Fri Nov 18, 2005 6:38 pm

your so full of yourself cut zook why dont u just stick a sticker to your head saying look at me i think i am tough. u dont do out of this world stuff so stop being a poser

Post by **anonymous bitch** » Sun Nov 20, 2005 8:08 pm

listen to your own advice zook chick but your sticker should say "TRY HARD" give him a break. your zook is nothin compared to his.

Post by **mud4b** » Mon Nov 21, 2005 10:07 am

far out....

another post turned to SHIT.

does anyone even remember the original post.

joel was asking if anyone had trouble with 5.12 diff gears... remember?

Post by **-Scott-** » Mon Nov 21, 2005 11:35 am

I was wondering why it's in General Tech and not the Suzuki section - but at this rate it'll soon be in the archive. :roll:

Scott

Post by **Tiny** » Mon Nov 21, 2005 11:47 am

Meh, lux diffs, zook difs, nissan diffs, mog diffs, lockers, no locker, welded auto, air, factory, disel, petrol, turbo WHATEVER. drive what you feel comfortable with, but stop arguing and answer his goddam question or dont bother.

given the ration and the size the pinion gear is, the chances are you will be more likely to break it, also the additional torque will result in an added chance of cv brakeges. but I am sure you are well aware of this allready and maybe it is an excuse to upgrade to a stronger option?

Oh and it doesnt matter how much you argue, the truth is you still drive a zook :finger:

JOKE>>>>>before you all start sending me abusive pms lol

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