Outer Limits 4x4 Board

Hello,

So I'm getting this 1984 LR Stage I, and have a couple of questions. First of all, what can I expect from the axles ? Specs ? It has the 3.5 V8, how about the tranny and TC ? Specs ? Are they generally good vehicles ? Solid built ? What should I check further out ? Can I wheel with 35s without breaking anything ? I sure hope it ain't no 10 spline crap, I've heard stories about..

Let's get the tech out ! Thanks.

G/box and t/case will be lt95 as per 4spd rangies( almost bullet proof), diffs should be salisbury in the rear dunno about the front but will be fairly tough. On all accounts a good vehicle if you like leaf springs, 35" tyres and any rover = breakages !

front diff is 10 spline,fit air locker with heavy duty shafts or maxidrive.CVs will be fine as they're same strength as 110 but slightly longer,other than that they're a good vehicle.

How about some gearings then ?

diffs are 3.5-1 and the transfer gears are=high 1.336-1,low 3.321-1.

Thanks. How about the tranny 1st and reverse ? What is the weakness on these beats, I have no LR experience at all. Any good links/pics/tips etc. ?

mal story recons that stage 1 cv's are the strongest because they are one piece with the stub shaft, series 3's normaly have 10 spline inner and 24 outer from memory,i heard its cheaper to buy an old stagy than buying cv's new for it .

the gearbox itself won't give any trouble,but if you have big power and load the transfer intermediate shaft may spit out thrust washers.To fix this just replace the intermediate shaft,gears and bearings with a 2nd hand army conversion from a Perentie.

How about the frame, fully boxed ? How is the suspension ? Travel ?

There is a problem though, the tranny is having some issues in 2nd gear (can't remember what exactly), it suppose to be caused by some bearings in the transfercase - is this a difficuilt fix ? Thoughts ? Thanks.

The chassis is almost the same as a normal Series 3 (2 "c" sections welded together), just a few crossmembers are different to fit the engine and drivetrain.

If the gearbox has problems in 2nd then it is a gearbox, not a transfer case problem (but the 2 items have one single casing, so you need to pull the whole thing out to repair either one. LT95 boxes are very strong and reliable, but expensive to repair.

If you are still looking for the gearbox ratios...

1st
4.0691

2nd
2.4480

3rd
1.5049

4th
1.00

Reverse
3.6643

Ugh, I was hoping the frame was boxed. The owner says it jumps out of 2nd gear, or something. Had to change the main-shaft (?) bearings in the TC ? I assume you mean they are married ? Expensive ?

Hm. The ratios looks pretty low, though - 47.3:1 crawl ratio ain't too bad.

What kind of bodies did the Stages 1s come as ? What's "best" ?


Keep the comments coming !

It is boxed... What do you think you get when you weld two C sections together??

Oh, I thought he said there are two C-sections being the framerails. Anyone got production numbers ? I want some inspiration, post up some pics people !

http://www.goldcoast4wdclub.org.au/inde ... _photo.php

I hope that works, old army springs give good travel (the 109 with leafs )

Try it this way

go the ute body and tube tray on the rear!

as far as i know they came as 3 or 5 door wagons or styleside utes,although they're easily converted to a trayback.

THE 109 wrote:as far as i know they came as 3 or 5 door wagons or styleside utes,although they're easily converted to a trayback.

AFAIK Australia only had trayback Stage 1 utes (unless you pull the roof off a hardtop) - rest of the world only had stylesides.

What's a trayback ? The Stage 1 is converted to pickup, originally being a station wagon..

red90 wrote:

Is *that* considered suspension-travel by the Roverpeople ?

*This* is travel !

No that is not travel .

A tray back is a flat deck pickup (ute ). Very popular in Australia.

http://www.csse.monash.edu.au/~lloyd/ti ... er/Stage1/
http://www.4wdonline.com/LandRover/Series/Stage1.html

Ah, I see. I like flatbeds, but since this one already is converted, it'll stay that way. Here in Norway you'll get major problems with the government authorities (DMW in US ?) if you increase the stock tire diameter more than 5% - imagine that ! I'll let the plates stay, I think - I have enough (5) tagless vehicles already !

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I hope that works, old army springs give good travel (the 109 with leafs )[/quote]

Army springs give terrible wheel travel unless you modify them they are way to stiff - SIII 109 military rear springs are 470lb/in!!!

The pictures below show the wheel travel when you reduce the military springs from 470-270lb/in (rear) and 315-240 lb/in (front). When those pictures were taken everything else was stock (stock military shocks, etc...).

That's better.

Anyone have any undercarriage pics, I'd like to check the drivetrain out. I'm probably picking it up tomorrow..

I'm also looking for pics of underneath of a Stage 1--particulary around the gearbox area, as i'm putting an LT95 into a series and would like to see pics of where the chassis xmembers are re-located to fit the longer transmission in.

Cheers
Nick

Woop wrote:I'm also looking for pics of underneath of a Stage 1--particulary around the gearbox area, as i'm putting an LT95 into a series and would like to see pics of where the chassis xmembers are re-located to fit the longer transmission in.

Cheers
Nick

I have done this conversion LT 95 with Mitsubishi Canter diesel into a IIa, Just sent you a PM

Brian