Outer Limits 4x4 Board

i have had a search around outers and then net with no joy. are lockright style auto locking diffs available for early rangies?

Yes

not reccomended for the front, bein full time 4wd.

rear should be fine. but may cause slight clunkin sounds and also pull under early or hard acceleration.

sweet any idea on the cost? and where to get one. i guess my local diff place should be able to get one in? do thay replace those weak as piss side gears?

Wouldnt touch! They are cheap for a reason because the locking mech moves on the axel and basicaly wears out the splines until they bust.
People say there a little noisy well they actualy bang. Had one in a cruiser.

Go for True tracs instead much better, similar money

cheers for the advice fellas. i just found info on the trutrac its an lsd i realy want a locker but not going to shell out the coin for an arb to go in a weekend 10 spline warrior how ever would work tops in the front.

460cixy wrote:cheers for the advice fellas. i just found info on the trutrac its an lsd i realy want a locker but not going to shell out the coin for an arb to go in a weekend 10 spline warrior how ever would work tops in the front.

I have experienced the 'joys' of a detroit before as well as the benefits. When I was offered a delivery damaged Truetrac for peanuts I was a bit unsure - LSD's have some odd quirks.

I have had it in the back of my RaRo for about 5k miles now, with about 1k miles off road. It's great. No unpleasantnesson the tarmac and just what the Doctor ordered off road. It works well on rock, in mud and on sand. Coupled to a mild disclocation system on the rear it means I don't have to run so aggressive a tyre (just MT's ) to get as far as I want.

I would suggest caution with chucking one in the front - I did just that with a Quaife LSD and it made fast driving on wet tarmac/loose gravel roads a bit interesting - especially the corners!

I also had a lockright in a cruiser, took a bit to shim up, to get it right and about 3 months later blew a tyre at 100k on the sealed road and the lockright didn't like that one bit.
And then driving down the road it would just let go without warning and it make the cruiser sway alot. a air locker is the only way to go.

Rangie Thing wrote:. a air locker is the only way to go.

To be honest the only way to go is G-wagon axles with hydraulic in/out lockers.

One day....

Lao Tsu wrote:

Rangie Thing wrote:. a air locker is the only way to go.

To be honest the only way to go is G-wagon axles with hydraulic in/out lockers.

One day....

Not really (or not without a lot of problems...)

G-Wagon axles are only about the same strength or marginally stronger than Rangie axles (diff centres are stronger).
The front axle on a G-wagon spins in the opposite direction to a rover diff (and most normal diffs) - so you need to fit a g-wagen transfer case if you want it to work.
G.wagen axles are semi-floating (at least rear and I think front too), so if you break an axle you lose the wheel.

There are MUCH better options out there.

It depends on what you want to do with it


A G axle will run 500hp and 35" Simex tyres with little or n worrie , so me wanting a Merc lump 170bhp derv burner, auto box, t-box and axles in a vehicle that will never run bigger than 31's. And I get a difflock that will force in and out....

I get my buzz out of long distance travel to remote areas and running/marshaling at events.

Why would I want to ruin my vehicles handling characteristics with Portals when I don't need them, what good are portals on remote tracks in the Sierra Nevada or at Wadi Rum? It's like running Simex ET's when all you do is a few tracks and trails and a couple of non comp events a year!
If I inclined to serious rock or say the Ladoga Trophy, then portals (russian military) and 44'x would be my thing. Each to his own but don't knock it until you have tried it.
If LC or GU axles were more common over here I would go down that route, but G stuff is easier to get. Hell I might even just buy a G and give the RR to the wife!

Lao Tsu wrote:Hell I might even just buy a G and give the RR to the wife!

That seems a more sensible and reliable option that fitting an entire whole g-wagen drivetrain to a RR.

The engines in the older G's weren't much to write home about.

The 2.8 naturally asthmatic 6 cylinder is okay for day to day use

The 3.0 NA 6 cyl is not too bad at all

The 3.0ltr Turbo is superb

The 2.3 pet is an abomination in the eyes of god

The 2.8 and 3.0 ltr pets are okay

The 4.4 V8 likes to run too hot

The 6.0ltr AMG is a mere 500bhp of stupidity

Luckily most of the car engines are an easy swap

Bets of the lot is the newish 5 cylinder 2.7 ltr Tdi - lovely and very fuel efficient - but a bastard to get hold of.