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OK,

Whats out there and what have other people done.

I am doing a ruf with zook rears ( moving the mount back) and thinking of modding the shock mount for longer shock, what have other people used? Is there a bolt on option ( i have heard of ford f-truck ones) or what design to use. I will be doing 1-2" bumpstop extension as well.

thanks

Nic

Nic - will be doing mine in the next week or so... stay tuned to my buildup thread - there will be pics!

Just have to get ubolts on so we can flex it up and see how long shocks need to be.

we are also at this stage in my mates' sierra build up.

thinking of making some shock hoops, but we are SPOA with RUF.

post up if anyone has done it, or if anyone has pics.

BTW, are you going to use stock lower shock mounting positions, and just extending the top mounting position to fit a longer shock?

SiKiD_01 wrote: BTW, are you going to use stock lower shock mounting positions, and just extending the top mounting position to fit a longer shock?

Yes thats correct.

Was thinking of using box in half with capped end for strength.

Is it better to use a eye-pin as per orig or go for eye-eye

cheers

eye, eye, captain
Peter.

I am also looking at raising the shock mounts, found a range of options available in the US, couple of links for you:

http://www.izook.com/tech/samurai/suspe ... towers.htm

http://www.roadlessgear.com/page/RGL/PROD/SU/SM140

http://www.trailtough.com/default.htm

The Trailtough ones are most like the Fords and at $17US are reasonably cheap, though they look like weld on only.

Has anyone had any experience with RWC/ engineering with raised shock mounts? I would assume that they would be fairly well scrutinised.

They appear to be a fairly simple design does anyone in Australia make something similar?

Ford ones look the goods. Anyone here used them or know where they come from or a part no.

I will have to go for a look at the coventries catalog i think.

Edit: i did some netraiding and found the below.






pair of F-250 bolt-on mounts (part # E5TZ*18183*A) not sure on where these part no.s come from.
F81Z18183AA - $90each from ford dealer in perth

Think i will look at making some.

cheers

I recently used Snake front shock hoops on my '87 NT. They are advertised as suiting Suzukis but appear to be universal i.e. fits nothing! We had to cut the angled base sections off and when welded to the chassis rails had to be angle braced to the top of the rails. This enabled me to utilise Rancho 9000x adjustables of approx. 735mm extension.At the same time, I added a 50x50mm. spacer to the bump stops as I had too much upward travel anyway. A recipsosaw took care of the inner guards. Try to get your new shockies to be somewhere mid point at rest for longer life. The end result is well worth it and looks very cool too!

PAT, would it be possible to get pics of the hoops please, and how you ended up mounting them.

thanks

hey nic is that retail or trade?, my bro has an account with coventries, will see if i can get better prices.

Hey Bazooked, that was retail straight to the dealership. Dunno if there is aftermarket ones.

cheers

The Ford mounts shown above, are they bolt in ?

I would have thought that shock mounts would undergo heaps of stress (Shock !!) and a weld would be required.

Has anyone on here used this style of shock mount before? How have they gone?

It looks too easy, remove old shocks, cut off old mounts, line-up new lifted mounts, drill, insert crush tube, bolt up, put in extended shock, go have fun.

$17 US from trail tough..

Looking through all the kool stuff on there atm.

now tell me im wrong but these look to be the near identicle

They are identical.
Trail tough would be selling the ford shock mounts.
The ford mounts are cheap as in the US as they have lots of the F trucks over there.
The mounts have often been used on Hiluxs for fitting longer shocks on Pirate4x4 and it has been mentioned how cheap they were from ford.
I too priced them up through Covs (Ford supplier) and got the same shit price.
Its starting to get that if you want to get anything for a fair price you have to buy it in from the US yourself.
Paul.

i managed to get a dealer price through ford from a mate prob is i can only get a pair for my self, would cost me $65 each.

Pat Murray wrote:Try to get your new shockies to be somewhere mid point at rest for longer life. The end result is well worth it and looks very cool too!

I disagree Pat. Measure the up stroke of the suspension, and allow 1" either way. You might find that the shock is nothing like in the middle of its stroke when the car is at rest - most cars will have far more droop than they have compression, unless they are unbumpstopped.

The other advantage of measuring this stuff up is that you might be able to run the mount far lower than if you centered the stroke which will mean less cutting into the inner guard.

note also that tyre clearance against the shock mount becomes very marginal for those of us still SPUA.

The mounts I have made are only about 180mm tall and with a 2" bumpstop spacer will run a N76 OMe shock (nearly 11" of travel)

I have seen other people fit a 13" travel rancho and have the mounts so tall they were higher than the inner guard at it's highest point. This is a lot of leverage and room to have to deal with.

steve.

I was only going on the manufacturer's recommendations (Rancho). I also am SPUA and I have managed to fit them with "minimal " intrusion into the inner guard. If your shocks have progressive valving why would you want to want to fit them in such a way as to force them to work towards the end of their stroke on a regular basis? Tyre clearence is not an issue (32"mongrels on F100 8"x 15") and I have utilised 50x50mm. RHS spacers on the bumpstops to limit stuff. Droop is excellent.

well i had a look at a pair of these at ford today and the numbers quoted are the wrong ones they are pre 80 model effies, so does any 1 no the right partnumber?

You could also call Eagle Auto in Melbourne (03) 9793 5544 they supply aftermarket and genuine parts for F series. Might be cheaper.

Also Super F Spares in Melbourne 9305 2522

well its official ford do not stock them in oz any more they are a deleted item, tried f trucks over here and they dont even stock them.

Bugga. Wonder how much freight is from US.

Thanks for lookin Bazooked

cheers

nicbeer wrote:Bugga. Wonder how much freight is from US.

Thanks for lookin Bazooked

cheers

Have a look at 40 Series Cruiser front upper shock mounts. They are riveted on, so a bit of a PITA to get 'em off. They might suit you though.

What shock are you going to use?

Not sure yet. probably a cofap or kyb one if there is one long enough. Something cheap hopefully, if not i may end up going for a ranho or otherwise.

Other than that i am going to ramp it when suspension is done to see what i need, i am mainly looking ahead and it looks like a couple people want them.

Thanks for the 40s idea. i will have a look,

Nic

Pat Murray wrote: If your shocks have progressive valving why would you want to want to fit them in such a way as to force them to work towards the end of their stroke on a regular basis?

Progressive valving is not based on shaft position but on shaft speed. The faster you try and move the piston, the harder the valving becomes, trying to prevent bottoming and bounce. At slow speeds, there is much less resistanceto allow for a smooth ride.

There are some specific OEM applications that have position dependant valving, and of couse this is what bypass race shocks do, but off the shelf aftermarket shocks don't care where the ride height position is.

Steve.