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Long range fuel tank for 02 Rodeo
Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 4:48 pm
by fishaholic
I have an 02 Rodeo V6 and while the fuel consumption isn't flash on them the Range i can get from it is atrocious! 350km/tank when im towing my boat with a bit of camping gear in the back
However i nearly fell over when i found out the price of a 112L 'long ranger' through ARB. $1100 fitted then you need to add the cost of filling it to test for leaks
Are there any other brands that make one for the rodeo???
Also do the long range tanks replace the existing tank or is it a seperate tank all together?
Andrew
Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 8:20 pm
by rainsey
Fishaholic,
350Km is pretty crap per tank, then it does depend on how big your boat is.
Re the long range tanks, 4WD Systems advertise every month in 4WD Monthly and have 124 litre tanks for the Rodeo. Their add states "689 for most tanks.
They are in South Oz but will freight. Give them a call - 08 8369 0033.
The long range tanks totally replace the old tank. By the way, not only do you get charged for installation for your $1100, but this also includes the cost of filling it up I think to check for leaks. There is $160 of cost!!
Cheers
Rainsey
long range tank for sale
Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 10:49 pm
by sudso
sent PM have that tank for sale
long range tank for sale
Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 10:51 pm
by sudso
Oh yeah, mine does not leak
Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 5:00 pm
by fishaholic
Thanks guys, just getting a feel for whats out there for the rodeo's.
Rainsey, the boat only weighs about 400kg max (13ft tinny) which really annoys me considering their a 1 tonner. However the last trip which i got with that sort of economy was mainly tight and hilly roads all the way which wouldn't have helped.
When i tow the old mans boat, which weighs approx 1600kg it sent my usuage through the roof! about 16L/100km.
So 4WD systems charge $1100 for the fitting, which includes the filling of the tank, is this right?
Would they ship them to a dealer in newcastle for fitting?
Andrew
P.S. love the site!!
Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 7:42 pm
by CRUSHU
LRA are the OEM supplier for GMH on the genuine long range tank, so the quality "may" be better (it will have passed ADR testing) which compared to most aftermarket products that are not even tested.
Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 9:42 pm
by rainsey
fishaholic wrote:So 4WD systems charge $1100 for the fitting, which includes the filling of the tank, is this right?
Would they ship them to a dealer in newcastle for fitting?
Sorry, I probably confused things, the $1100 I was refering to was the price you were quoted from ARB.
As I stated, 4WD systems advertise thier tanks starting at $689, re shipping to a local fitter, I do not know... give them a call on the number I put in my last post. The only reason I mention them is that I am also after a long range tank and they appear to have a higher capacity tank for less money. If this equates to build quality, I do not know. They offer a 3 year warranty so surley the product cannot be all that bad.
From what I understand, most 3rd party tanks are just bolt in jobs, when I contacted long ranger they stated I only needed to drill one or two holes to accomodate. So if you are handy with a spanner or two.. do a DYI install. The 400 bucks will buy a lot of bait!
Re your fuel economy... I would not have thought that a small tinny would make a difference to the V6. I run a diesel and regardless of if I am towing or not .. I seem to get about 500K out of a 63 litre tank. My high speed trip (yep my diesel did exceed 100km/h) to Queensland & back recently got me around 600Km out of the tank. 400Kg should not be a major job for a Rodeo as it has one of the largest carring capacities arount I am lead to beleive. The 16ooKg I can understand.
What sort of economy do you get around town with no load??
Cheers
Rainsey
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2005 9:33 am
by Utemad
The V6 is renowned for bad economy. I have the 4cyl petrol in the same body as yours. When I tow anything my economy goes to shit as well. I get between 350km and 500km with 31in tyres depending on things such as weight carried/towed, type of driving, air con on etc.
I normally get a bit over 400km to a tank (63L) around town with minimal air con use.
Considering you only get an extra 50L for $1100 or so I just use jerry cans. I once considered fitting the standard MU/Jackaroo tank where the spare wheel goes but then relocating the spare would mean it was just easier to use jerries once again. Cheap option though but means carrying the spare permanently in the tray instead of carrying jerries sometimes in the tray.
Rodeo tow capacity is 1800kg too. My towbar is only 120kg towball weight though.
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2005 9:44 am
by CRUSHU
i correct my previous post, the OEM supplier is Brown Davis, 03 9762 8722
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2005 11:30 am
by noelp
Sounds like the V6 and the 2.6L 4 cylinder have about the same economy then? So not that atrocious after all. It isn't good though. About 6.5-7km per litre fully loaded for my dual cab on 31" tyres.
I am on my second TF R9 V6 rodeo. First was an ex police vehicle with the long ranger tank. I bought my second V6 and then swapped tanks over. It is NOT just a bolt in job - not technically difficult to do but not easy by yourself. The OEM dual cab tank is supported at the front end by a bracket off the chassis - this has to be cut/ground off and the considerably longer (and deeper)(about 60mm less ground clearance in front of the rear axle) tank bolted at the front to the chassis crossmember underneath the passenger footwell. You have to twice drill right through the crossmember requiring a 5"or so 10mm drill. The tank extends up and over the rear driveshaft, so the vehicle has to be approximately 2ft off the ground to get the tank in with the propshaft unbolted from the diff. It is NOT easy to do at home without large axle stands, and preferrably some form of hoist so you are not lying on your back trying to thread in the tank over the unbolted propshaft. $400 is not the completely unreasonable price for installation you might think.
Then I had to weld in the cut off bracket into the first V6 to put the small tank in it prior to sale!
Hope this helps.
Noel
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2005 9:05 pm
by fishaholic
Rainsey, i was a bit suprised at the fuel economy with my boat on to, just doesn't make sense, considering i can average about 12-12.5L/100km driving around town unloaded and about 11L/100km on the highway. Throw the boat on and it goes into the high 13's.
Maybe my boat is heavier than i think
One thing i have done is fit a 'hiclone', this gives me about 1L/100km better than when i got it, i am considering fitting a second to see if it makes more of a difference
Andrew
lr tanks
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2005 9:22 pm
by sudso
noelp wrote:
I am on my second TF R9 V6 rodeo. First was an ex police vehicle with the long ranger tank.
Quite a few of these around and ex cop Jack's too.
Just get a lr tank fishaholic. It's 2 and half less jerrycans you'll have to take leaving more room for those big fishy's you catch!
Fill er up when petrol's discounted, get further between fill up's.
I wasn.t aware of the fact that a new bracket needs to be put in as my lr tank was already in it when I bought the vehicle but if memory serves me correctly the ARB tank for the Rodeo uses all original fittings and brackets. Mine has a welded bracket up front with 2 bolts for the tank which looks original.
noelp is correct in saying that you lose about 50mm in clearance especially under the front of the tank, half the reason I dented the front of mine while offroading. The other half of the reason was driver error
I've been more careful since the new instalment but I am putting in 50mm lifted springs and going 32 or 33" tyres (not just for the tank reason) which will give me about 80mm of lift over what I have now.
Also I'm going to make a bash plate out of 6mm and fix it at an angle in front of the tank to protct the front of it from any head on obstacles.
The front of the tank is vertical so if anything hits it, it hits it face on
I dont know exactly what mileage I'm getting, I think I could go about 1000k's with moderate driving (highway/town) with a medium load. That's with 112 ltr.
useable petrol and 55ltr.
useable LPG. Offroading is a different kettle of fish.
My father in law has an old 89 single cab with the 2.6 and I'm surprised how pokey that motor is and with reasonable economy too. And he's towed xxxx of split gum at a time in it for years.