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anybody have the plans to make a adapter plate for a 1600 conv into a sierra ????

engine mounts are sorted just need to make an adapter plate and i've been getting stupid prices to buy one ....

or how does everybody else adapt there's ?

if ya got a zook box lyin around bolt up the flywheel clutch, mont the box on the back, the top 2 holes line up, and its just a matter of re drilling the 2 bottom holes, there is enough meat there, this is what i did yesterday to mine, also after u do that open up the 2 top holes in the gearbox so u can use the bigger vit bolts, also ya got to use the sierra plate( the thin bit between the box and motor). also grind a bit os the starter cause it hits on the inside.

this is how i did mine also

bazooked wrote:if ya got a zook box lyin around bolt up the flywheel clutch, mont the box on the back, the top 2 holes line up, and its just a matter of re drilling the 2 bottom holes, there is enough meat there, this is what i did yesterday to mine,

I just made up some brackets with some scrap steel I had around.

bazooked wrote: also after u do that open up the 2 top holes in the gearbox so u can use the bigger vit bolts

Or helicoil the threads and use the stock bolts.

fi you use a 1600 16v vitara reduction starter then there's no grinding needed, they fit

im sure the vit starter has different teeth to the zook 1 cause the flywheels r different or i could be wrong cause mine came with an auto, and the bolt pattern is different if ya use the zook sandwich plate.

bazooked wrote:im sure the vit starter has different teeth to the zook 1 cause the flywheels r different or i could be wrong cause mine came with an auto, and the bolt pattern is different if ya use the zook sandwich plate.

Are you using the auto?

i wish id like to, but just to much work involved gotta cut the tunnel and make a new 1 blah blah blah, if i get desperate enough i might do it down the track.

manual reduction starter does work on sierra flywheels had one for ages

oozuk wrote:anybody have the plans to make a adapter plate for a 1600 conv into a sierra ????

engine mounts are sorted just need to make an adapter plate and i've been getting stupid prices to buy one ....

or how does everybody else adapt there's ?

Is this a serious question from you???

how many of these have u done?... or am i missing half the thread?

Spock

i problabury should of explained my self better.
i've done heaps and heaps of 1600 conversions, but i've always welded alinimum lugs on the sides of the 1300 sierra box and drill out the top holes to suit the 1600 block, In saying that everytime you explode a gearbox you'll need to do a full overhaul on the box and reuse the housing with new internals, but that's a pain in the arse where a gearbox adapter plate makes gearbox swaps painless and easy with less mods needed to the gearbox

my last engines i used the welding tecnique but as now as im planning on running double the HP that my old worked NA 1600 made i'm trying to plann ahead for when the box eventually lunches itself

Since i'm such a tightass i don't wanna fork out mega money for a "name brand adapter plate!" i was chasing like a cad drawing or similar of one so i can fabricate my own,

I'll figure it out myself eventually but a little help would certainly speed things up

If you are running that much power, perhaps you should fit a vitara gearbox too. they are stronger than the 1.3 box.

Considering the success of RocToys transfer rings, perhaps he could consider a 1600 to sierra box adapter plate aswell. As the most popular conversion around and advice regularly sought on OL there should be enough interest just on here to warrant the initial setup.

Calling Roc70y

Your next assignment is to build a conversion plate for a 1.6 into a sierra

I'd be keen

ive got 1 can take to the laser cutter to copy but i got to pull the motor to get to it..

bazooked wrote:ive got 1 can take to the laser cutter to copy but i got to pull the motor to get to it..

DO IT

Might be worth ya while

its as simple as laying the vitara sandwich plate over the sierra plate then tracing around them.

you also need to get 2 countersunk bolts to go into the adaptor plate to replace the studs.

that is as much as im willing to give away.

mud4b wrote:its as simple as laying the vitara sandwich plate over the sierra plate then tracing around them.

you also need to get 2 countersunk bolts to go into the adaptor plate to replace the studs.

that is as much as im willing to give away.

Do you sell adapter plates

yes i get them from suziwest.

a very good kit and saves the stuffing around building your own.

if there is enough intrest i might have to pull it out, i gotta do it anyway but was goin to do it when i finish the lwb.

Hey guys, I make adaptor plate kits over here in NZ.

I designed one when I put my 1600 in. The plate was CAD designed by scanning both the block and gearbox on a co-ordinate measuring machine, so it is absolutely accurate and lines up perfectly.
My kit also comes with CNC machined studs for the top two gearbox mounts, fine thread countersunk cap screws to mount the plate.
This means you don't have to drill out or re-tap any holes in the gearbox, so its completly bolt on.
It also has the other bolts required, an engine mount adaptor, and some instructions. The plate is powder coated aluminum grey.

All for $200.

I can find a cost to post to OZ if anyone is interested, or I have a mate that flies over there regularly who could bring them over.

Ben

that sounds like the go.. where were u before? and is that nz dollars or aussie, cause its bloody cheap!

Guys I would personally just use the Vit gearbox e have one customer with a injected 1.6 and went through4 boxes we put in a vit box and all is good now was way easierto do the mods to fit it than muck around making the engine fit the sierra box.
SAM

OVERKILL ENGINEERING wrote:Guys I would personally just use the Vit gearbox e have one customer with a injected 1.6 and went through4 boxes we put in a vit box and all is good now was way easierto do the mods to fit it than muck around making the engine fit the sierra box.
SAM

I am of the same opinion

OVERKILL ENGINEERING wrote:Guys I would personally just use the Vit gearbox e have one customer with a injected 1.6 and went through4 boxes we put in a vit box and all is good now was way easierto do the mods to fit it than muck around making the engine fit the sierra box.
SAM

but depends how you treat them too,

i have plenty of frends with high HP zooks and very rareily have g-box failures there a strong box, the only problem i've ever had with them is when running a set of locrites, they gave the whole drivetrain a big runup and would shockload the gearsets and strip all the teeth off the input gear
with high RPM launches, fitted air lockers, no more locrite backlash and never broken a gearbox again !!!! mind you i am a very abusive driver to my zook.

just for intrests sake, with my old worked NA 1600 and the double lockrites i smashed 7 gearboxes !!! and all the same brakeagaes, input gear strips first then lunches the rest of the internals,

now more HP and Air lockers F&R and never had a failure

so if your's are failing then somethings up

Thats $200 NZD for a kit.

I haven't done it, but I would have thought there would be quite a bit more work putting the entire vitara gearbox and transfer in a zuk that just bolting up an adaptor kit. It would mean you'd need new gears if you already had that sorted.
A lot of vits seem to be auto as well. The two I got my motors from were. Of course, that could be a plus, depending on what you're looking for.

Ben